I saw the little fist pump and I still think the whole action stank of look at me Villa, I should of been doing this at the other end, I'm here against my will, I'm unhappy. Nasty little rat weasel ridiculing the club which has done so much for him in the past.
His body language once he'd scored was not that of a player who as Martin & Ruddy had come out in the press and vocally backed there manager was it ? For a split second it looked like instinct would kick in, then it was clearly suppressed along with a wry smile. I'm not advocating we hang him from the nearest tree, but I would like to think its a subject which has or will be mentioned behind closed doors at colney before Saturday.
I know, nice for Carrabuh to come and out and show us what a horrible, nasty arsehole he really can be (there you go, is that the reaction you were looking for by any chance?)
Well there's a surprise comment from Munky ! Once again if an opinion is different to your own then your not fit to follow the club !!! ****s sake Munky change the record, if it's not a slap head it's this old response, your becoming boring if nothing else!
Good to see that the thread isn't based on supposition and that no inferences are being made in any shape or form.
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even taking into consideration its carrabuh who wrote this thread and i imagine he spends most days crying his eyes out into a bucket at the sheer thought of being lumbered as a norwich city fan, it has to be said that this whole ‘non-celebration’ abuse is pitiful. this season a section of our fans seem desperate to abuse someone, anyone – its becoming like a sport for them – who will be the next person they will abuse? its truly embarrassing, right up there with the snakepit hurling abuse at snodgrass or the booing of substitutions or the ludicrous frenzy that coincides with becchio entering the fray. so hoolahan didn’t jump around when he scored. so what? he scored didn’t he? he took the chance. had he behaved unprofessionally and missed on purpose then of course we should all feel outraged but in fact, he had quite a good first half and nearly scored again. even though i personally don’t think he is good enough to be included in the starting line up most weeks i am willing to give credit to the wee man because he did well and he certainly took the chance really well. do you know what i did when he scored? i didn’t jump around either - i was too busy laughing my tits off at the irony of him not only playing but also scoring against the club who wanted him a few weeks ago. its amazing how often that sort of weird thing happens in football, like players scoring against their old clubs even if they hardly ever score usually! plus, the fact he DID celebrate by giving a fist pump before being mobbed just reiterates how utterly stupid the reaction has been. ok, so it was a bit muted but what a ****ing bastard! i mean, imagine scoring a goal and ONLY giving a little fist pump. he should have ripped his shirt off and run down the other end of the field and jumped into the norwich section - that really would have proven he’s norwich through-and-through, eh? but of course, he isn’t norwich through-and-through, is he? he just happens to be employed to play football for our club, something he has done with a great deal of ability over the past few years. ok, he’s hit harder times now and struggles to get in the team but that’s football - time moves on and he’d like to play more often as you’d like to think all players would (though not all do). did he want to leave? yeah, he did, because he thought he might play more football. did he go about securing a move in the right way? he certainly could have handled the situation better imo. did he actually go? no. did he give his all in the yellow and green on sunday? yep. so pull your heads out of your backsides and stop abusing one of OUR players just because he didn’t do cartwheels when he scored an ironic goal. he scored the goal, that is all that matters. and under the circumstances i suspect his more restrained celebration was aimed more in the direction of our manager than anything else. we are in a scrap and we need fans to get behind the players, not give them dogs abuse over something which was so inane it didn’t even register with me until i saw the nonsense reported after the game. quit abusing everyone and start ****ing ‘supporting’ the club you all claim to support. OTBC
I completely agree. All this anti Hoolahan vitriol is confusing. Encouraging people to boo when his name is read out? How is that going to help anyone? In the words of Mario Balotelli "a postman doesn't celebrate when he delivers letters".
Only some have resorted to abuse Super, so not really fair to tar us all with the same brush. otherwise I agree with your summary completely.
This. I was drawn to the bit about his celebration being aimed more at his current manager, rather than any future one. That's the first thing that sprang to my mind - here's what I can do, here's what you've been missing. Of course, I could be wrong - that's exactly the point - we don't know, so slagging him off is unjustified without knowing the facts.
Hmmmm, I wonder if Carrabuh has bothered to take the time to actually watch the incident on MOTD again today, as I did a few times this morning, and realised that there is absolutely no story here at all. He's gone all quiet on us. I've watched it about five times and just don't get the fuss at all, he didn't go mad but he pumped his first 2/3 times and you could see he had a smile on his face as the rest of the team piled onto him. Didn't look like any unrest in the camp to me? It is a complete and utter non-story, entirely preposterous, and I hope Carrabuh is suitably embarrassed by the ridiculous, poisonous and totally uncalled for vitriol he is hurling at his former idol.
To be fair Munky, it was an easy mistake to make - I didn't get the chance to watch the game and all the highlights made a point of showing only Hoolahan seemingly deliberately under-celebrating. It goes to show the dangers of trusting in highlights to say the least! I also think that, irrespective of whether he did or didn't celebrate, the reaction to this furore shows there was real underlying resentment to Hoolahan's behaviour in January, which was just waiting to boil over - and this incident (or lack thereof) was what people were waiting for. I don't blame Carrabuh for making the same mistake I made on initial viewing, and I actually think it's now far from clear - while I agree that he did give some indication of celebration, the incident was undeniably bizarre - everyone picked up on it including my mate who is a Blackburn fan (we saw the highlights together and it was him that pointed out Hoolahan seemed not to celebrate). We still don't really know what Hoolahan's opinion is. Press conference?
Glowing praise for Wessi's contribution last night from Shane Long and martin O'Neill. Just saying http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/...ce_by_shane_long_and_martin_o_neill_1_3400599
So you're saying Carrabuh was justified in calling Wes a "weasel", a "rat weasel", a "disgrace to our club" and telling him to "**** off" multiple times and then encouraging every Norwich fan to boo him when his name is read out on Saturday?? Sorry Rob, I'm afraid I just don't get it, I don't get it at all. If you want to side with Carrabuh and his made-up propaganda then that's up to you, though from where I'm sitting that side absolutely stinks
No, Munky, that's not what I said - read what I wrote. I said it was an easy mistake to make assuming that Hoolahan didn't celebrate based on the highlights we were shown and comments in the press. I wrote "I don't blame Carrabuh for making the same mistake I made on initial viewing". Carrabuh's reaction relates to my second part - that it shows to my mind there was underlying resentment. I wasn't justifying or excusing how this underlying resentment surfaced, merely trying to explain, to my mind, why I think he and others reacted in that way.
Thing is though Rob I disagree that it was an "easy mistake to make" as no matter how many times I've seen the replays I just don't see the problem at all. As has been said, Wes has never been one for massive goal celebrations, and whilst he might have been a bit more subdued than he usually is, I just can't see any reason whatsoever from his reaction for some of the vitriol he has faced, particularly the nasty stuff from Carrabuh. I guess it was an easy "mistake" to make if you were looking for something to grab onto and if you have some kind of agenda based on some throwaway comments he made in January and about him wanting to leave during the window that you want to make an issue of. However if you ("you" being anyone by the way, I'm not specifically aiming this at you) want to have a go at him then have a go at him for that, but don't try to disguise this contempt behind some made-up issue from Sunday's game that to my wide-open and unblinkered eyes doesn't even exist. At least I guess Carrabuh has succeeded with the aim of this post in stirring the hornet's nest and getting us to squabble with each other. Good old him I say, jolly well done, he must be proud
