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Official Pre-season testing thread

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by BrightLampShade, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. BamalamaFizzVaj

    BamalamaFizzVaj Member

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    but if he were slating the car and/or team people would just be criticizing his behaviour and relishing in that fact he's shown something negative they can exaggerate and use to damage his image. Personally i think it's why so many seem desperate to see Vettel have no chance of winning, so they can hang on every little outburst, spin, off the track moment or contact and immediately claim he's not as good as his previous results suggest. Vettel's probably smart enough to know so many are looking for these cracks in his personality and performance.
     
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  2. 2xwdcslayer

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    What is encouraging about the statts regards the 2014 tyres is the less wear,graining,and blistering. Hopefully we will see the naturally quick drivers come more back into play since some as suffered since 2011 quick wearing tyres were introduced. And now with less down-force and higher torque we should see driver skill over driver needing more grip to perform.
     
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  3. SgtBhaji

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    It will definitely be interesting to see the drivers having to wrestle the cars a bit more again and seeing them overcook it. The cars have just generally been a bit dull to watch. I much prefer seeing cars dancing on the edge of adhesion. Hopefully we get some of that this season.
     
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  4. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    i like how tyre management apparently isn't a driving skill, i wonder why people have decided that.
     
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  5. SgtBhaji

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    Because it's boring... There is no fun in watching a race where everybody is afraid to push because of the fear of blistering or graining their tyres. So they all stay in a nice line doing a whole lot of nothing. Yes it's a skill, but from a spectators point of view, It's duller than a lettuce sandwich.
     
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  6. 2xwdcslayer

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    Yes I cant wait. No more Let me wait for this naturally quick driver to burns his tyres out so I can pass as I cant match him for speed.
     
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  7. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    yes, now we won't have to worry about overtaking at all, because the running order will of already been dictated in qualifying.
     
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  8. 2xwdcslayer

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    More strategy than driver skill as it does not take much skill to enter and exit a bend at reduced velocity but if the situation arises in a race that this type of driving is necessary to win then so be it and I will appreciate the driver who uses this strategy to win , but when it is forced upon you to drive like it throughout a season just because of a race that took place in Canada in 2010 then it can be a bit to much.
     
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  9. SgtBhaji

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    You're like the prophet of doom... Let's judge the season when we've seen a handful of races, then we'll have a better picture as to how things might pan out.
     
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    Tyre management is also a task that can be easier or more difficult based on how easy your car is on tyres. If you've got a car that eats tyres, you're going to have to dial back a lot more.
     
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  11. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    you mean exactly like "dancing on the edge of adhesion"?
     
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    If they're all on the edge... then they all had better not fall off.

    Of course some cars will be better than others and be able to push more, it's the way it's always been. But it's more of a spectacle then merely nursing tyres to the end.

    Why do you feel that tyre management makes for an interesting race? When you're seeing cars going around unable to race the cars around them, what part of that makes you buzz? I'm curious to know.
     
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    Tyre management has always been around, Pirelli just hyped up it's importance a bit.
     
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    Not always... we've had periods of almost indestructible rubber. What made tyre management more apparent than it has been in the past is how easy it is to take the best out of the tyres and how drastically they fall off once they are past their best.

    I understand what you're saying though... It's just more of a primary concern than it may have been in the past.
     
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    Melbourne could be an absolute cluster. I wonder what odds you can get on no cars going the full distance. Might be worth a punt. :p
     
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  17. 2xwdcslayer

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    It was/is a concern because introducing fragile tyres was a design by the FIA who wanted see more off the cuff calls by team during a race Pirelli has only done what they have been asked to do and have gone to far regards safety as we saw in 2013. Tyre degradation should be something that evolves in a race due to conditions or what ever, not by design and that what as happened since 2011.
     
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  18. SgtBhaji

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    That about sums up my thoughts. I was also getting dangerous for a while. I'd say there was some bullet dodging going on last season. It's lucky that nobody was hurt.
     
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    In my opinion they should of never allowed it to get to Silverstone with those tyres.
     
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  20. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    i don't see why anything that adds skill requirements and strategy to the race is a bad thing. If you remove the need for drivers to manage their pace at various stages of the race to save tyres and/or fuel then you'll end up with even more of a procession, where everyone is just driving at or around the limits of their car for the whole race, at least the tyres mixed the running order up a bit throughout last year, and required teams to try different things.
     
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