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The season is not over, every game is a chance to progress. But there was really no reason to take today's game lightly and it's only natural that we, the fans, are utterly dissapointed with the team and the manager.
 
tomw19 said:
I'm not plastic, didn't I say I went to Newcastle and Norwich and many other away games last season.
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Odd. I wasn't accusing you of being so, I don't believe in the term. I'm just saying that I hope, with what you're saying today, you don't accuse others of being so. "It doesn't suit me any more, so I'm not supporting"
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
Here's an idea. Scrap the Europa Cup and bring back the Cup Winners Cup for teams who, y'know, have won cups. A far smaller competition in terms of teams than Europa, but one that could (if constructed properly) mean something, and that could by extension bring back meaning to the FA and even League Cup.
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ChilcoSaint said:
I agree about the Europa League, but it has itself been devalued by the sheer size of the Champions League. If we went back to the CL just being for the Champions, and replace the Europa with something like the old UEFA Cup, with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in each league plus cup winners, then both competitions would mean more. That, in turn, would upgrade the domestic cup competitions. At the moment, the prize for winning the Cups is the same as coming 5th and 6th in the Prem, whereas in my suggested system it would be the same as top 4 apart from 1st.
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These ideas would be nice but they just won't happen. They got rid of the Cup Winners Cup because so many of the cup winners in the big nations also qualified for the Champions League and didn't actually take part in the Cup Winners Cup. Realistically the big clubs in the big nations won't going to agree to reduce the number of Champions League qualifiers either.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
Odd. I wasn't accusing you of being so, I don't believe in the term. I'm just saying that I hope, with what you're saying today, you don't accuse others of being so. "It doesn't suit me any more, so I'm not supporting"
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Sorry for biting your head off in that case.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Overreaction. Mauricio wanted to win today, but thought he could do it with some changes. Wrong,,,because it destabilised the team and we never recovered. He made a mistake...hasn't he earnt the right to the odd mistake. The players wanted to play well....they weren't deliberately having a bad day in unison. Don't think I am not annoyed...because I am. However, one crappy game isn't going to change the fact that this is a good season. There is a lot of the season left...I want Saints to win as many games as they can and finish strongly...starting with West Ham.
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It's not an "Over-reaction", its a reaction to a woeful loss & performance.

If a player makes a mistake as bad as Poch's team selection, he'd probably be dropped for the next game. Thing is, Poch KNEW he was making a mistake and carried on anyway. I do not believe for a second that he felt that side today had as good a chance to win as the one he selected for the Hull game.

This could have been a better season, perhaps a one in a million season, if the manager had taken today's game as seriously as all the other ones. I presume he's paid to give all games the same focus.

There is a lot of the season left, like last year, when the last part of it tailed off terribly when the team had nothing to play for and the manager then didn't seem able to motivate them as well. Bloody hope that isn't repeated this season.
 
Onionman said:
I think this may be the first post ever where I disagree with almost every single sentence.

We're not going to go down, we're going to finish where we are now, we're out of the FA Cup so I really don't care what Saints do between now and the end of the season. We don't have to finish where we are now. We have a third of the season left

I'll still follow them but I'm not shelling out £35 to watch a game where Saints have very little to play for. - Little to play for? We could easily end up above Man U. When did we last do that?

A complete waste of money. - Really; you get no enjoyment out of going to a game just as a game?

When Saints lose I won't feel disappointed at all and when we win I'll shrug my shoulders and say, season's over, doesn't matter. - How far up the table would we have to be for you to care? We could, with a following wind, end up sixth. Would that be too tedious for you?

It was far more interesting last season when Saints were battling relegation. - Hopefully we can arrange that for you next year. That'll make you happy.

I travelled to places like Norwich and Newcastle because the team needed all the support they could get. - Then you give up supporting when we do well enough to stay up but, well, tell me exactly what position we should be in upwards from where we are before you'd consider the team worthy of support?

If they don't care about the FA Cup, I won't care about the rest of the season. - Non sequitur. If we'd been in second place and "not cared" about the FA cup would you have said OK or would you maintain consistency and "not care"?

I'm upset that I care more about an England friendly than I do about Saints right now. - Tell you what, if we can get MP to lose the next ten matches will you be interested again?

I'll see you next season Saints - Until we get to a safe position again, I guess. Let me save you the time; the chances are we'll end up in a middling (but hopefully slightly higher) position next season so if I were you I'd give up at the start of the season. With a bit of luck I'll be totally wrong and you'll get your wish of an exciting relegation battle.

Vin
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Agree with this Vin. Also as a side note does this mean you will drop out of the prediction league Tom?
 
We wouldn't be devoted fans if defeat didn't hurt. I'm sure the players are disappointed and for lots of reasons it just didn't happen, time to draw that line.
Onwards and upwards!
 
Nope...I'm still looking forward to the rest of the season. Finishing 8th would be great, finishing 7th or higher would be ridiculous. If we managed to to overhaul United it would definitely give us extra pulling power in the Summer for new signings.
 
Downthe36 said:
Nope...I'm still looking forward to the rest of the season. Finishing 8th would be great, finishing 7th or higher would be ridiculous. If we managed to to overhaul United it would definitely give us extra pulling power in the Summer for new signings.
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So would an FA cup final.
 
Ok, now I've calmed down (I know, I've said that many times :smile:), although I'm still angry and bitterly disappointed I do think I was hasty with some of the things I said. It is by watching City v Chelsea realise how good we have it playing in the same league as these teams. I may or may not go to another game this season, but at least the passion that was missing several hours ago has returned. :smile:
 
After taking some time to reflect on todays game I realised its not all bad. We can look forward to seeing a number of our players (hopefully) in an England friendly next month and possibly later this year at a world cup! Its also a great chance to see the next crop of saints players coming through, and we still have a lot of matches to look forward to.

Yes, an FA cup run and a day out at Wembley would have been nice but we are curently sat in 8th in the premier league. Look where we've come in the past year and who says we cant mirror that progress next year. Our season is not over, and theres still plenty to look forward to.
 
I realised that today's result really didn't disappoint me that much. I realise that I can't and don't care that much about the FA Cup anymore, and it must have something to do with the precious little done by the FA to make sure its status is kept as high as it used to be, as little as half a dozen seasons back. Years ago I would have been gutted. Now I can't wait to overtake ManU in the Premier league and then set our sights on the next club. We need to finish as high as we can. I'm not satisfied with 8th.
 
We've got a small and young squad with a few gaps to fill, a chunk of cash to burn, the club is stable and improving, manager is a continuing breath of fresh air, 12 teams in the Prem wish they were us. Plus some actual good reasons to support England. So yeah, bring on the summer.
 
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