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So? My cousin emigrated to New Zealand with her husband. They don't support the Kiwi's or do the Haka.
Playing devils advocate here. But I really dont want someone who buggers off and leaves this great country still plastically pretending to support us. Bit like the plastic paddy's who've been here for years and years but still yearn for the old country. Its only a few hundred miles **** off back if you love it so much.
Seriously? Have a word.
Some people leave due to work, marriage, health, tax. They will still be English.
So we should scrub those Ashes wins then. Pietersen, Trott, Strauss any others? Glad thats cleared up.
Aussies have had players who weren't born in Australia play for them- Andrew Symonds. I'm sure there are more.
That's professional sport for you, I don't agree with that either. You either play for the country of your birth, or grand parents birth or you don't.
As he probably isn't a professional sports person, then your point is....pointless.
No its not its my opinion against yours. Roo feels he is an Aussie. How long has your cousin lived in NZ? If its as few years then i can understand but after awhile I believe you should immerse yourself in that country and show some loyalty to it.
You cannot change your country of birth, he may feel Australian, he may want to be Australian, the fact remains he's English and he lives in Australia.
If you want to be technical then I had better explain to you that my ancestors came her in 1066 (and all that) and were Norman Knights. Does that still make me English or am I to be classed as "of French descent'?
Apart from Aborigines, EVERY 'Australian' can trace their nationality to another Country. Some are descendants of the 'convicts' that were sent here (a real 'status symbol' among Australians like the 'Pilgrim Father' descent in the USA) whilst many are descendants of migrants choosing to come here for a better life. Three of my children were born in England whilst a fourth was born in Australia. She carries and Australian passport though spent a mere 6 weeks here after she was born before her Mother took her back to England with the other three. Does that make her a "Dinki-Di" Australian? No it doesn't! A "Dinki-Di" Aussie is one born here of parents who were also born here.
I have chosen to be Australian because I have lived here almost twice as long as I have lived in England although I am of English descent.
It's a matter of choice and the 'England' that I knew no longer exists.
We migrated to England for a better life for our children. Simples. I wasn't that enthused about coming here but my first wife talked me into it. When we got here I fell in love with the place (to be honest, I thought I'd died and gone to 'Boozers Heaven") but my wife hated it. It was far to 'macho' for her way of liking and most women worked - something she hadn't expected to do. The things I miss most are English Fish and Chips, English Sausages and watching Hull City afc every week-end. I have never taken to "Australian Rules Football". It has been a small price to pay for a far better way of life and a better climate. The 'powers that be' are hell bent on fixing something that wasn't broken and the "Land of Milk and Honey' is disappearing fast. It is happening all over the world with governments everywhere determined to 'strengthen the weak by weakening the strong' - and old adage that has been proven time after time to never work.
I'm a proud Englishman who happens to live in Australia and I support England as I have always done. Living in Australia is a lifestyle choice (in particular Australia is great for kids to grow up in if you want them to have an outdoor lifestyle all year round)
The ridiculous argument about leaving the country makes you plastic - you could extend that debate to if you leave Hull then you're a plastic tigers fan - which is also ridiculous.
The ridiculous argument about leaving the country makes you plastic - you could extend that debate to if you leave Hull then you're a plastic tigers fan - which is also ridiculous.
