The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Lets hope for a result tomorrow.
Fletcher is the new Darren Bent
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Lets hope for a result tomorrow.
Most likely. In the grand scheme of things only the fans have suffered ultimately. I'd be buzzing with a draw today like.
Cest man, I remember what you said and you were all for his appointment when he arrived. Now you relentlessly blame him for all of our problems and ignore the millions that MON wasted on sackless plodders.
You can't change history and the things you say on here stay on here.
Just like the relentless ridiculing you've dished out to Martinez who you always reckon is a useless conman of a manager who's not fit for the Premier League.
He's taken Everton to the verge of the Champions League despite the recent loss of Baines and the permanent loss of Mario Fellaini.
I wonder if you'll admit you were totally wrong about him now.
It looks now like they have been playing Fletcher even though he is still struggling with an ankle problem..May explain why he has been out of sorts..
Hopefully, that would be the best answer wouldn't it?
It's terrible to think that we've had a run of strikers who couldn't care less about the club.
I'd hate to add Fletcher to the list of Bent, Gyan, Cisse, Wickham ..............
Now the question is why isn't Watmore getting more bench time if indeed Fletch is carrying an injury. Fletch has been ****e, does it matter why when there are options? He's injured and playing ****e, for **** sake stop playing him Gus!
Cest man, I remember what you said and you were all for his appointment when he arrived. Now you relentlessly blame him for all of our problems and ignore the millions that MON wasted on sackless plodders.
You can't change history and the things you say on here stay on here.
Just like the relentless ridiculing you've dished out to Martinez who you always reckon is a useless conman of a manager who's not fit for the Premier League.
He's taken Everton to the verge of the Champions League despite the recent loss of Baines and the permanent loss of Mario Fellaini.
I wonder if you'll admit you were totally wrong about him now.
To be fair Cest has already admitted the moral of the squad was already fragile. Therefore most of that damage had already been done which is pretty much what I've been trying to reason with him, but he's ignored his own comment to carry on shouldering the whole blame on PDC, If he's gonna contradict himself and still dig his heels in, I can't see how we can reason with him on this matter. Since Bruce became manager there has been massive blunders from the playing staff to the chairman including everything in between. Cest is clearly having trouble accepting the true situation of our club and it's causes as he's burying his head in the sand which is understandable considering his confidence regarding our club is unstable to say the least.
Just think it's his coping mechanism mate. It hardly covers himself in glory but it must be keeping him going because we have a more positive Cest on the forum at the moment.
I agree and it's a welcome change under the circumstances.
I just find it a bit daft to attempt to offload all of MON's many failures onto Di Canio who was flung headlong into a terrible situation & demoralised squad.
The problem is that comments you make on here, no matter who long ago, stay on here. Attempting to change your own 'personal history' just doesn't work.
That's forums for you mate. I check my facts even when i know it already, it's just sensible. It's a never ending declaration, signed time and time again with every word we type.
Got a lot of time for this Cest though. He's quite balanced at the moment, PDC comments aside. It's good for the forum too as Cest has always carried a lot of influence on here, A panicking Cest can bring folk to symbolically throw themselves from buildings. Considering our position it's a calm board at the moment.
Or ...... ..... you can always backtrack, waffle or pretend it was a ll just a joke really
Or ...... ..... you can always backtrack, waffle or pretend it was a ll just a joke really
That doesn't wash with me like.
Cest man, I remember what you said and you were all for his appointment when he arrived. Now you relentlessly blame him for all of our problems and ignore the millions that MON wasted on sackless plodders.
You can't change history and the things you say on here stay on here.
Just like the relentless ridiculing you've dished out to Martinez who you always reckon is a useless conman of a manager who's not fit for the Premier League.
He's taken Everton to the verge of the Champions League despite the recent loss of Baines and the permanent loss of Mario Fellaini.
I wonder if you'll admit you were totally wrong about him now.
Says the man who wanted Martin Jol? Mmmmmm?
Or ...... ..... you can always backtrack, waffle or pretend it was a ll just a joke really
No backtrack or pretending its a joke. PDC was the worst ever appointment full stop and I absolutely did express my concerns at the time whilst giving the bloke my support as the new Sunderland manager.
And Bri, I don't have anywhere near the kind of influence you suppose. I just have my own strong opinions which do not include buckling to either you or smug as some do. That's fine by me as well.
I certainly didn't want Martin Jol at the time for sure.
I did and I thought he'd have been a good choice ........... I also would've had the manager you maintain is worse than useless who we're up against today.
The thing is, I'll stand by what I say, will admit if I was wrong and don't pretend I haven't said things I obviously have.
You had a few things to say about MON after we'd won a few under Di Canio iirc.
Think you're undervaluing yourself there Cest. I think you carry more influence than you realise, I'm not suggesting you try to lead or anything, I know they're just your opinions and nothing else, and I'm not suggesting folk agree with you because it's you, we all have our own opinions. It's a respect thing, you're a senior poster who carries bags of respect, especially amongst the older posters who you share a lot in common with. A group of posters I admire greatly.
Merry christmas you arseholes, fancy starting a ruck on boxing day ..
How I see it is MON was 10 years to late, PDC inherited the 'On the Buses' cast as players and he saw that, did his bit in his style but then we got 'Mutiny on the Buses'
Poyet's there to clean it all up, offer stability and if it all goes well then maybe next May, we can all **** off for a 'Holiday on the Buses'..
A happy christmas to all, a draw today or more then I will be calling Martinez a useless twat
..How I see it is MON was 10 years to late, PDC inherited the 'On the Buses' cast as players and he saw that, did his bit in his style but then we got 'Mutiny on the Buses'
Poyet's there to clean it all up, offer stability and if it all goes well then maybe next May, we can all **** off for a 'Holiday on the Buses'..
A happy christmas to all, a draw today or more then I will be calling Martinez a useless twat
Guy's, tonight's not the night for ripping into each other. We've just had a great win, one that could be the start of something really memorable.
Now's the time for mackems to enjoy the moment together!
Now's the time for mackems to enjoy the moment together!
Can't agree with that mate ......... if we'd lost the doom mongers would've gone for the throats of anyone with any faith.
They always come back with that 'we're all Sunderland fans together' bollocks ............ so **** them
Can't agree with that mate ......... if we'd lost the doom mongers would've gone for the throats of anyone with any faith.
They always come back with that 'we're all Sunderland fans together' bollocks ............ so **** them
Oh get off your bloody soap box man. You don't own the exclusive rights of being a Sunderland supporter and nor do you win any awards over and above anyone else for having a differing opinion.
We are bottom of the league and haven't been playing well up to Gus being appointed over that nut job you personally supported who has a massive part to play in our current plight.
The situation has been grave and depressing for a while and just saying so doesn't lessen our passion or love for SAFC. Youre beginning to bore the ****e of me now with your I am the best Sunderland fan and anyone who moans is a crap supporter bollocks. Youre not impressing anyone outside of your little circle of pals with it now.
There are passionate and loyal Sunderland fans from all walks of life who have been depondent and at odds with management, players and ownership but they are also entitled to enjoy days like today without your kind of exclusive club mentality.
So **** you too?
