That Mirallas tackle

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Tobes said:
I've never said anything other than it was a red, as it was, pure & simple.

My point was that your physio could have inadvertently contributed to Dowd's wrong call. Sorry I thought this was a forum for football discussion?
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Which the ref shouldnt be influenced by, as he isnt when managers throw their arms in the air etc

So no matter what our ****ing physio said, its irrelevant to anything
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
I knew this would turn into a slagging match. I've looked at the elbow incident several times, and I don't believe there was intent. Mirallas? Different kettle of fish altogether. And you know I'm pretty reasonable Tobes.
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Only Gerrard knows if there was intent there, it looked like a snide attempt to me (& Distin) but he didn't connect & it therefore doesn't really matter.

Assuming Dowd had a decent view of the incident, he could have only given him the benefit due to Suarez foot not being on the deck. If his foot is planted that was a leg breaker.
 
The DR says said:
Which the ref shouldnt be influenced by, as he isnt when managers throw their arms in the air etc

So no matter what our ****ing physio said, its irrelevant to anything
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What like Clattenberg when Gerrard told him to send Hibbert off when he was clearly going for a yellow card before he piped up?

Of course they're influenced by factors around them, they're humans ffs.

Hence the lack of away team penalties at OT & some of the 'big team' decisions that happen virtually every week. Get a grip.
 
Tobes said:
What like Clattenberg when Gerrard told him to send Hibbert off when he was clearly going for a yellow card before he piped up?

Of course they're influenced by factors around them, they're humans ffs.

Hence the lack of away team penalties at OT & some of the 'big team' decisions that happen virtually every week. Get a grip.
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Distan and Barry were giving it loads that they thought Suarez was feigning injury, our physio has as much right to his opinion as them, right?
 
The Gerrard incident is interesting - had he connected, he should have been sent off.

It did look like he was leading with his elbow so you could argue the intent was there - therefore, technically he should have been sent off?

Also, there were a few other incidents involving Miralles - Suarez went in on him, and Miralles landed on top and stuck a boot in - accidental?

He also elbowed Henderson which drew blood as well ...
 
Tobes said:
Not if you've got eyes & a fully functioning brain in your head it couldn't <doh>
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Therein lies the rub - you obviously haven't as evidenced by the inane ranting by yourself on this thread. Toddle off Tobes you're an embarrassment to every other Bluenose.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Distan and Barry were giving it loads that they thought Suarez was feigning injury, our physio has as much right to his opinion as them, right?
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No he has zero right to come on & try & influence the referee.

The irony is, that he may have inadvertently had the opposite effect.
 
Foredeckdave said:
Therein lies the rub - you obviously haven't as evidenced by the inane ranting by yourself on this thread. Toddle off Tobes you're an embarrassment to every other Bluenose.
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Yawn, here comes the auld know nothing bore,

Watched it again yet?

Thought not
 
Tobes said:
No he has zero right to come on & try & influence the referee.

The irony is, that he may have inadvertently had the opposite effect.
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Gtf, so its ok for the Everton players to try and influence the ref but not the physio?

Either nobody should try and influence the referee or they all can.


But as has been said many times the ref bottled it, the player himself thought he was off and whether his foot was on the ground or not doesn't matter.
 
Dowd talked himself out of it if you ask me.

You don't wait 2 minutes to decide what you are going to do - it has to be immediately after you have seen the incident.

No one is clouding judgement or influencing then are they?

See it, run over, red card. Everyone can shout and ask questions after.
 
mighty_stevie_g said:
Dowd talked himself out of it if you ask me.

You don't wait 2 minutes to decide what you are going to do - it has to be immediately after you have seen the incident.

No one is clouding judgement or influencing then are they?

See it, run off, red card. Everyone can shout and ask questions after.
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I disagree, they should always give themselves a few seconds to avoid rash actions. Certainly shouldn't take two minutes though and the commentators called it right after about twenty seconds when they said it wasn't going to be red with how long it was taking.
 
Gerrez said:
I disagree, they should always give themselves a few seconds to avoid rash actions. Certainly shouldn't take two minutes though and the commentators called it right after about twenty seconds when they said it wasn't going to be red with how long it was taking.
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I agree with this when it is pulling someone down on goal and the whole "was he last man" etc then you may need a second to go through the scenario.

But for reckless tackles like that you know straight away imo.
 
mighty_stevie_g said:
I agree with this when it is pulling someone down on goal and the whole "was he last man" etc then you may need a second to go through the scenario.

But for reckless tackles like that you know straight away imo.
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True <ok>

The ref took the right amount of time for the Wes Brown one, same he still got the decision wrong <laugh>
 
Tobes said:
I've never said anything other than it was a red, as it was, pure & simple.

My point was that your physio could have inadvertently contributed to Dowd's wrong call. Sorry I thought this was a forum for football discussion?
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I thought that too.

Turns out it's a place for calling people names for challenging a clearly subjective opinion supported by no facts whatsoever.

Ho-hum.
 
Tobes said:
What like Clattenberg when Gerrard told him to send Hibbert off when he was clearly going for a yellow card before he piped up?

Of course they're influenced by factors around them, they're humans ffs.

Hence the lack of away team penalties at OT & some of the 'big team' decisions that happen virtually every week. Get a grip.
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Dont talk to me like that 'mate'

woulda shoulda coulda, he shouldnt be influenced by anyone else no mater how much you wafflle on about it
 
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