Allams have never made a bid for the KC stadium?

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TBF, that sounds much more like a wish than a promise.

I forgot to add in my summary. Its the reason for the name change. He wants loads of money to be able to compete in Europe in 2 to 3 years time and changing the name will bring it rolling in.

Have a listen to his interviews again, its all there.
 
Do you take all his soundbites at face value?

No. I don't think we'll be in the Champions League or the Europa League in two or three years time unless we find a new investor with loads more money than Assem Allam. Even then 2 or 3 years may be cutting it a bit fine.

Completely misjudged you, sorry.
 
I forgot to add in my summary. Its the reason for the name change. He wants loads of money to be able to compete in Europe in 2 to 3 years time and changing the name will bring it rolling in.

Have a listen to his interviews again, its all there.

I've listened to them.

Whatever the reason, surely you can't blame an owner for wishing that the club can generate it's own money rather than going into deeper and deeper debt or relying on him.
 
No. I don't think we'll be in the Champions League or the Europa League in two or three years time unless we find a new investor with loads more money than Assem Allam. Even then 2 or 3 years may be cutting it a bit fine.

Completely misjudged you, sorry.

He is a very poor communicator. He is confused and does not order his thoughts in a logical comprehensible way.

Not everything he says is garbled nonsense, but some of it is off the cuff wishful thinking to be taken with a container load of salt.

He seems to be serious about the name change, and baffled by the fuss.

That's led him to get defensive/aggressive and compound the PR mess with his wild 'it's my toy' assertiveness.

You have to read between the lines with this chap. A strange cocktail of characteristics.

Didn't Paul Duffen mention Europe in 2008?

He was slated by some fans for being overly ambitious.
 
He is a very poor communicator. He is confused and does not order his thoughts in a logical comprehensible way.

Not everything he says is garbled nonsense, but some of it is off the cuff wishful thinking to be taken with a container load of salt.

He seems to be serious about the name change, and baffled by the fuss.

That's led him to get defensive/aggressive and compound the PR mess with his wild 'it's my toy' assertiveness.

You have to read between the lines with this chap. A strange cocktail of characteristics.

Didn't Paul Duffen mention Europe in 2008?


He was slated by some fans for being overly ambitious.

Sticking my nose in I'd have to say you need to be careful with this fella.

Attracting another owner to buy out a club with few assets wouldn't be easy.

West Ham struggled to find a buyer despite their history and London base ........... it was only when the current owners were tipped off that they could get the new ground and sell off Upton Park that they were sold.

Hull has a relatively inferior history, position and fan base than West Ham and, worse, don't have a ground to call their own.

Businessmen are interested in hard cash first and football a distant second.
 
Allow me to be devil's advocate for a second.

The owner is investing millions, attempting to provide top flight football and maximise income for when he's no longer there to prop the club up.

The council seem unwilling to allow anyone, bu them, to have the stadium.

Surely the owner isn't doing as much wrong as previous people like David LLoyd etc.

But that's the point, unless he actually owns the stadium he can't possibly do as much wrong as the likes of that twat Lloyd, as he can't padlock the gates and lock the team out.
 
But that's the point, unless he actually owns the stadium he can't possibly do as much wrong as the likes of that twat Lloyd, as he can't padlock the gates and lock the team out.

I've forgotten how it works, but I think it's Karl Berg who offers an argument that Lloyd's actions there ultimately did us a big favour.
 
I've listened to them.

Whatever the reason, surely you can't blame an owner for wishing that the club can generate it's own money rather than going into deeper and deeper debt or relying on him.

If you think that you've misunderstood me. I think the club should be dependant on nobody. I think Hull City Tigers or Hull Tigers is an awful name and won't bring in the money he thinks it will. Success on the pitch brings in the money from Asia and elsewhere. Its why Manchester United has paid for the Glazers to become its owners. Hull City isn't Manchester United.
 
If you think that you've misunderstood me. I think the club should be dependant on nobody. I think Hull City Tigers or Hull Tigers is an awful name and won't bring in the money he thinks it will. Success on the pitch brings in the money from Asia and elsewhere. Its why Manchester United has paid for the Glazers to become its owners. Hull City isn't Manchester United.

So what's your solution for that?
 
I've forgotten how it works, but I think it's Karl Berg who offers an argument that Lloyd's actions there ultimately did us a big favour.

Lloyd managed to separate the club from the ground.

Lloyd kept the ground and those dodgy ****s from Sheffield had to pay him the rent.

Lloyd was pants but he wasn't criminal pants.
 
So you know what happened at the meeting but can't tell us ?

Are you saying we shouldn't have any concerns abour Mr Allam and his honesty ?

No, I'm saying that the truth would/could damage all parties concerned and would be bitterly denied by all involved. The trouble is I didn't know if I should have laughed or cried when I heard what it was all about. It really is something of nothing that turned into a farce.
 
Lloyd managed to separate the club from the ground.

Lloyd kept the ground and those dodgy ****s from Sheffield had to pay him the rent.

Lloyd was pants but he wasn't criminal pants.

Cheers. I reckon Karl used too many words. <laugh>
 
Lloyd kept the ground and those dodgy ****s from Sheffield had to pay him the rent.
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Remember seeing Tom Belton in Stakis playing with 25p chips when he was Chair.

Though, from the brief brief I know, (uncle) Tom wasn't one of the bad eggs.
 
No, I'm saying that the truth would/could damage all parties concerned and would be bitterly denied by all involved. The trouble is I didn't know if I should have laughed or cried when I heard what it was all about. It really is something of nothing that turned into a farce.

Sick of all this ****... Why doesn't someone post what happened and then all those involved can bitterly deny it afterwards.
 
Lloyd managed to separate the club from the ground.

Lloyd kept the ground and those dodgy ****s from Sheffield had to pay him the rent.

Lloyd was pants but he wasn't criminal pants.

Does appropriating monies from fans for purposes other than those advertised constitute criminality?? If not then everything poor old Francey, may he rest in peace, did to thwart Appleton was in vain!