To get off this stats discussion at the moment, as clearly nobody is going to change their mind, what is Qatar going to do with all these stadiums after the WC? Talk about legacy and the amount of hassle caused by the future of one stadium in this country, where there is a requirement for many, just how many stadiums does a country the size of Qatar need? Clearly FIFA don't do "legacy". Not that there's much legacy for all those dead Nepalese workers (sorry, couldn't resist).
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To get off this stats discussion at the moment, as clearly nobody is going to change their mind, what is Qatar going to do with all these stadiums after the WC? Talk about legacy and the amount of hassle caused by the future of one stadium in this country, where there is a requirement for many, just how many stadiums does a country the size of Qatar need? Clearly FIFA don't do "legacy". Not that there's much legacy for all those dead Nepalese workers (sorry, couldn't resist).
To get off this stats discussion at the moment, as clearly nobody is going to change their mind, what is Qatar going to do with all these stadiums after the WC? Talk about legacy and the amount of hassle caused by the future of one stadium in this country, where there is a requirement for many, just how many stadiums does a country the size of Qatar need? Clearly FIFA don't do "legacy". Not that there's much legacy for all those dead Nepalese workers (sorry, couldn't resist).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26260765
I think this is basically exactly what I was saying isn't it lads ?
I think this is basically exactly what I was saying isn't it lads ?
The whole charade smacks and smells of collusion and cover-up. I don't believe a word of what those scumbags have to say..lies, damn lies, and statistics!.
The Indian Embassy in Qatar has stated that, "the "overwhelming number" of deaths were due to natural causes" ".
What evidence do you have that they are making that up ?
What qualification or special knowledge of the matter do you have which puts you in a better position to comment on inidian deaths in qatar than the inidian embassy in qatar ?
The Indian embassy in Qatar...about says it all really. I'd rather listen to impartial evidence, than you..
Luckily nobody has ever died in the construction of any showpiece stadiums in England. Oh, wait...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7073251.stm
The International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC) said the data showed "an exceptionally high mortality rate", while Human Rights Watch researcher Nicholas McGeehan said the figures were "horrendous" and gave "an indication of an unfolding tragedy in Qatar".
I thought this originally came up as a problem involving Nepalese workers, not Indians?...I don't see the Nepalese issuing any statements about deaths being "normal"
That is a spurious and completely irrelevant comparison. Seriously, grow up!...
Would you prefer me asking what the legacy for England's 2018 bid would be?
The most fatal flaw in the England bid wasn't that the bid could be summed up as saying "We invented football, so give us the World Cup" (which was the same for the 2006 tournament) nor the fact that the last time England hosted a major football tournament there was row upon row of empty seats for games not involving England or Scotland, but how the future of numerous clubs was being mortgaged to facilitate the bid. Forest were expected to move into a new 45,000+ seat stadium even though they haven't come close to filling the 30,000 capacity City Ground in years, Plymouth were expected to expand their stadium from 19,000 to 46,000, Leeds were expected to expand Elland Road from 39,000 to 51,000 - if you want to talk legacy, saddling numerous lower league clubs with white elephants is going to leave one hell of a legacy, just not the one that was expected. You just have to look at some of the drains on resources cluttering Portugal after Euro 2004, or closer to home look at the Reynolds Arena in Darlington, to see what would happen.
There was also comment from the English football press at the time of the bid critical of the choice of Stadium MK as a venue, mainly focusing around it being chosen as The FA sought to clear their conscience of allowing Wimbledon to be moved to Milton Keynes.
Lastly, not only were there accidents during the construction of Wembley, one of which fatal, but the fact is the stadium was completed two years later than scheduled. That's hardly an encouraging sign for a nation bidding to host a World Cup, is it?
so you are knowledgable enough about the situation to know that the indian embassy's statement can be dismissed as being factually incorrect ?
again, on what basis are you in a position to do that ?
if it was factually incorrect, would it not have been challenged publically by those in the know ?
I will look into the truth behind these claims later, when I have time to look into it in depth. In the meantime, suffice to say that I won't take anything at face value from the government of a country who are forcing well over a quarter of the people of their own country to live below the official poverty line - about 50c a day! Simultaneously allowing some 3,000 children a day to die of malnutrition. Meanwhile they build nuclear weapons and develop their space programme!...
Again, I hear nothing from the Nepalese government who's people were the original victims of this farce of a bought and paid for World Cup.
So noting that there were problems with building one football stadium in England, the construction of which went two years over schedule and involved several accidents, one of which was fatal, isn't relevant to the problem in question?
Sounds remarkably relevant to me.
Of course it's irrelevant. Firstly, those people were all paid very well, they weren't held prisoner, their passports confiscated, etc. Nor were they forced to work ridiculous hours in intolerable conditions. Lastly, of course, the numbers of casualties involved bear no resemblance to each other..
Working conditions in the UK. On construction sites are better then ever, the health and safety aspect borders on overkill (no pun). So I know HBIC likes his anti British rants! But you can't compare as the majority(which are low) of deaths come from workers making errors, taking short cuts and putting themselves at risk, especially at height.
Accidents happen and because of the nature of a construction site, it's usually fairly horrific or fatal but British workers can't complain about working conditions, especially on big construction sites, as there are far too many health and safety checks, visits, for there to be any real concerns. Unless in rare circumstances.
Accidents happen and because of the nature of a construction site, it's usually fairly horrific or fatal but British workers can't complain about working conditions, especially on big construction sites, as there are far too many health and safety checks, visits, for there to be any real concerns. Unless in rare circumstances.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ent-Jack-Warner-and-family-paid-millions.html
Anyone vaguely surprised?
Anyone vaguely surprised?
