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donga darko said:
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Your cat gets it in the name of science. But on the plus side it'll eventually lead to transporters like in Star trek. Worth a few (thousand) dead cats, and relief on the garden-bird population too. Then again, it might lead to some people getting fly's heads (an improvement for wayne rooney, doubtless). Either that or we wait for someone to develop a brand of Floo Powder that actually works.

But they'll probably have to test that on cats too. <confused>
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Cant we use dogs instead?

It is interesting, I am into Science (im being serious) but bot as much as some of you it seems

I watch stuff on science in all different aspects but I wouldnt go out of my way to read about it for instance
 
donga darko said:
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Your cat gets it in the name of science. But on the plus side it'll eventually lead to transporters like in Star trek. Worth a few (thousand) dead cats, and relief on the garden-bird population too. Then again, it might lead to some people getting fly's heads (an improvement for wayne rooney, doubtless). Either that or we wait for someone to develop a brand of Floo Powder that actually works.

But they'll probably have to test that on cats too.
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None of it can be proven empirically- it's all just mathematics. The same mathematics that proves that bees can't fly- except no-one told the bees.
Schrodinger ( don't know how to do umlauts on my keyboard) used the cat in a box theory to show the absurdity of applying quantum theory to anything above the sub-atomic particle level. He never intended it to be taken seriously.
But, surprise surprise, he was taken seriously, and his word was taken at face value. A bit like John Lennon saying the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.
 
The DR says said:
Cant we use dogs instead?
It is interesting, I am into Science (im being serious) but bot as much as some of you it seems

I watch stuff on science in all different aspects but I wouldnt go out of my way to read about it for instance
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No we can't! Do you want to be burned as a witch, you ****ing Phllistine! Schroedinger said cats, so cats it is.
 
saintanton said:
None of it can be proven empirically- it's all just mathematics. The same mathematics that proves that bees can't fly- except no-one told the bees.
Schrodinger ( don't know how to do umlauts on my keyboard) used the cat in a box theory to show the absurdity of applying quantum theory to anything above the sub-atomic particle level. He never intended it to be taken seriously.
But, surprise surprise, he was taken seriously, and his word was taken at face value. A bit like John Lennon saying the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

Might have started out as a thought exercise in absurdity, but that's not how even Schroedinger thought it himself at the end. Truth of the matter is, at sub-atomic levels thing happen counter-intuitively (then again, Relativity was thought counter-intuitive at first).
 
donga darko said:
No we can't! Do you want to be burned as a witch, you ****ing Phllistine! Schroedinger said cats, so cats it is.
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Well if you never try new things...........thought you'd understand that of all people

I say I wouldnt go out of my way to read about scientific things but I do, not about these sort of theories but science covers so much that thinking about it, actually read quite a lot on it
 
The DR says said:
Well if you never try new things...........thought you'd understand that of all people

I say I wouldnt go out of my way to read about scientific things but I do, not about these sort of theories but science covers so much that thinking about it, actually read quite a lot on it
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here. Have a chocolate watch <laugh>
 
The DR says said:
Well if you never try new things...........thought you'd understand that of all people
I say I wouldnt go out of my way to read about scientific things but I do, not about these sort of theories but science covers so much that thinking about it, actually read quite a lot on it
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I'm pulling your chain DR, I read all the stuff (New Scientist -ace!) and watch all the stuff on Discovery, and about 1% sticks. But I'm full of awe and wonder, from the moment at nine when my dad, who'd just explained lightspeed, pointed to a star (can't remember which one) and said the light I was seeing had left that star when Jesus walked on the Earth. Unfortunately I was better at English, history and geography at school, and I was a dunce at maths and chemistry (wish Walter White had been my teacher) so I use humour to ridicule my own lack of understanding. It is all wonderfully absurd, and I think of what Gallileo went through and think you can either face that with an indignant rage at that vested ignorance of some - or you can laugh at that absurdity and your own limitation of understanding. And the thought of cats being gassed for science....<doh>
 
donga darko said:
I'm pulling your chain DR, I read all the stuff (New Scientist -ace!) and watch all the stuff on Discovery, and about 1% sticks. But I'm full of awe and wonder, from the moment at nine when my dad, who'd just explained lightspeed, pointed to a star (can't remember which one) and said the light I was seeing had left that star when Jesus walked on the Earth. Unfortunately I was better at English, history and geography at school, and I was a dunce at maths and chemistry (wish Walter White had been my teacher) so I use humour to ridicule my own lack of understanding. It is all wonderfully absurd, and I think of what Gallileo went through and think you can either face that with an indignant rage at that vested ignorance of some - or you can laugh at that absurdity and your own limitation of understanding. And the thought of cats being gassed for science....<doh>
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Allow me to recommend 'The Infinity Puzzle' by Frank Close. Great explanation of the Higgs Boson quest and the Standard Model that it completes.
 
"who'd just explained lightspeed, pointed to a star (can't remember which one) and said the light I was seeing had left that star when Jesus walked on the Earth"


Its all mind blowing stuff Donga
 
NOBEL Prize recipient Peter Higgs has spent his prize money on a customised lilac sports utility vehicle.

Higgs, professor emeritus of theoretical physics at the University of Edinburgh, said: &#8220;I&#8217;ve dropped some serious Nobel cheddar on this bad boy.

&#8220;It&#8217;s sick.&#8221;

Higgs, who is currently deliberating between the license plates PART1CLE or H1GG5, said: &#8220;In the place where I grew up, physics was the only route out.

&#8220;I saw neighbourhood physicists in their sports cars and designer clothes and thought yeah, I gotta get some theories.&#8221;
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Red Hadron Collider said:
Allow me to recommend 'The Infinity Puzzle' by Frank Close. Great explanation of the Higgs Boson quest and the Standard Model that it completes.
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Got a fantastic book on Nothing by Frank Close. Mind-blowing. We truly can not imagine nothing (as opposed to the absence of something), and can only express it mathematically. Mind-blowing.
 
donga darko said:
Got a fantastic book on Nothing by Frank Close. Mind-blowing. We truly can not imagine nothing (as opposed to the absence of something), and can only express it mathematically. Mind-blowing.
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Is it about 'the void' and quite a small inexpensive book? If so, I think I've read a review of it somewhere.
 
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