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gooner4ever said:
are you actually an arsenal fan ? its seems you are not very well thought of by other forum members so perhaps you are a closet Spurs fan !

i will respond - take the time to read carefully before you reply with more insightful and meaningful comments.

1 he is not a buffoon - he has produced some great players/teams that played beautiful football - i remember the "boring boring" days. if he was a buffoon why is he wanted by other clubs/countries to be their manager. he could walk into any job at any other club but has stayed loyal to us.

2 the board arent useless - they have stuck to a strict financial game plan to get us to where we are today, to be ready for Financial Fair Play. we are solvent, we now have money in the bank to spend on players, and we can afford their wages from our profits. we could be like Chelsea and Mancity and spend money we dont have/earn but what is the point in that. look at the money Liverpool have spent in the last 5 years and where has it got them 7th or 8th in the Prem.

3 being in the top 4 is better than not being in it. every team in the Prem would swap their position for ours as it brings in the money, and attracts the top players.

4 the new stadium means that we dont have to invest in a new stadium, unlike other teams. Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool all have that ahead of them if the genuinely want to increase their matchday earnings. when financial fair play is actually here we are in a very strong position compared to others in the Prem as we have done the hard part already by getting the stadium in place. and yes players will join us because we have a new stadium as they will know that all future spending/investment is on players/wages !!
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You make some good points, but questioning someone's support because they criticise the club more than you won't go down too well. They criticise because they care. I understand you're sort of `semi-joking' though. Hans makes some good points too, though he's been a bit... miserable lately lol. Many of us on this forum regard him well and value his input.
 
Arsegun said:
You make some good points, but questioning someone's support because they criticise the club more than you won't go down too well. I understand you're sort of `semi-joking' though. Hans makes some good points too, though he's been a bit... miserable lately lol. Many of us on this forum regard him well and value his input.
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Ditto that <ok>
 
gooner4ever said:
are you actually an arsenal fan ? its seems you are not very well thought of by other forum members so perhaps you are a closet Spurs fan !

i will respond - take the time to read carefully before you reply with more insightful and meaningful comments.

1 he is not a buffoon - he has produced some great players/teams that played beautiful football - i remember the "boring boring" days. if he was a buffoon why is he wanted by other clubs/countries to be their manager. he could walk into any job at any other club but has stayed loyal to us.

2 the board arent useless - they have stuck to a strict financial game plan to get us to where we are today, to be ready for Financial Fair Play. we are solvent, we now have money in the bank to spend on players, and we can afford their wages from our profits. we could be like Chelsea and Mancity and spend money we dont have/earn but what is the point in that. look at the money Liverpool have spent in the last 5 years and where has it got them 7th or 8th in the Prem.

3 being in the top 4 is better than not being in it. every team in the Prem would swap their position for ours as it brings in the money, and attracts the top players.

4 the new stadium means that we dont have to invest in a new stadium, unlike other teams. Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool all have that ahead of them if the genuinely want to increase their matchday earnings. when financial fair play is actually here we are in a very strong position compared to others in the Prem as we have done the hard part already by getting the stadium in place. and yes players will join us because we have a new stadium as they will know that all future spending/investment is on players/wages !!
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1. He is clearly a buffoon. His tactics are weak, he has no plan B, his methods are questionable, and he wants all this control at the club, yet is clearly incapable of dealing with it all. If he shed his off the field duties, he'd be able to refocus on his management, and maybe we'd get the old Arsene back. Shame he's too proud to admit he can't cope with all the responsibility.

2. The board are useless. The strict financial plan has left us behind our competitors, and as such, we're not as attractive a proposition as we once were, the knock on effect of us cheapskating is obvious to see.

3. Don't you want more than just a top 4 finish? I want us to win things, the current setup won't allow us to. We have a loser mentality, with a better mentality we would have won the COC last season (think how easy Bradford's path was, that would have been ours)

4. The new stadium has no soul, they should have redeveloped highbury, it was an internationaly revered and loved stadium, if a classy foreigner such as Thierry Henry can come over and fall in love with the place, then it must have been doing something right. The Emirates has a higher capacity, which in theory should help us compete, but because of the board, we can't. All 4 points are linked.

And don't question my loyalty. You can insult my intelligence, my personality etc. but do not question my loyalty.

I'm more of a fan than you'll ever be, because i'm not blinded by the fools who are going to run this club into the ground.
 
Hans Gruber said:
1. He is clearly a buffoon. His tactics are weak, he has no plan B, his methods are questionable, and he wants all this control at the club, yet is clearly incapable of dealing with it all. If he shed his off the field duties, he'd be able to refocus on his management, and maybe we'd get the old Arsene back. Shame he's too proud to admit he can't cope with all the responsibility.

2. The board are useless. The strict financial plan has left us behind our competitors, and as such, we're not as attractive a proposition as we once were, the knock on effect of us cheapskating is obvious to see.

3. Don't you want more than just a top 4 finish? I want us to win things, the current setup won't allow us to. We have a loser mentality, with a better mentality we would have won the COC last season (think how easy Bradford's path was, that would have been ours)

4. The new stadium has no soul, they should have redeveloped highbury, it was an internationaly revered and loved stadium, if a classy foreigner such as Thierry Henry can come over and fall in love with the place, then it must have been doing something right. The Emirates has a higher capacity, which in theory should help us compete, but because of the board, we can't. All 4 points are linked.

And don't question my loyalty. You can insult my intelligence, my personality etc. but do not question my loyalty.

I'm more of a fan than you'll ever be, because i'm not blinded by the fools who are going to run this club into the ground.
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Highbury could not be redeveloped. The East and West stands could not be demolished for a start.
 
I think parts of Highbury were grade II listed, so couldn't be removed or extended?
 
Kyle can be ok and he can be a totaly negative **** who gets on everyone nerves and derails loads of threads to be emo hangouts.

It usually depends how intoxicated he is i think...
 
It's good to have some contrasting views. We have a few posters who are equally over-the-top with their positive views. So I find he balances things out like Yin and Yang.
 
It reminds me more of the opposite ends of the bipolar scale, which really don't cancel each other out at all (though to be fair to Toledo, his positivity is far closer to being rational than Kyle's wailing despair).
 
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