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Wtf does Rupert Murdoch have to do with the Daily Mail? The rest I cannot comment on, I never read it.

I wasn't claiming they owned Daily Mail if that's what you think. I however believe they follow the same school of thought as Rupert Murdock (anyone who isn't successful in life and needs a helping hand is utter filth the scrounging scumbags, anyone who is successful is because they are super smart and talented of course and anyone who thinks that they should pay more tax than less successful elements of society is a commie and should be locked away McCarthy style)

And you should, you seem to share a lot of views in common with it's editors.
 
I always read the Daily Mail, guess that makes me a right wing fascist <whistle>

Jeff Powell absolute legend, he's Leeds and he knows he is <ok>

Must admit though, I didn't even know that twat Adrian Durham has a column in the Mail, just shows you how closely I pay attention to what's in it <laugh>
 
We've actually been over this ground before, Josh. The GFH statement was very carefully worded, and probably only issued due to pressure from Bates. It's a matter of interpretation. LUST were speaking to a chap who was specifically engaged by GFH to help them with the TO. He was never a regular employee of GFH, hence they were able to carefully word that statement. If you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, send in that specific question over Twitter or FB at the next meeting.


LUST are working with a number of the RSC's for some time now on an initiative named Leeds Fans United, where one voice of the fans can be presented to the club.

They have been working on it for two weeks, and LUSC are the major player. Stop talking ****e.
 
They have been working on it for two weeks, and LUSC are the major player. Stop talking ****e.

Oh, so I'm talking ****e, am I? Funny how it's been discussed at quite a number of LUST meetings, open to all & available to listen to on t'internet. Including you. It's a well known fact to many people, apart from dyed-in-the-wool LUST haters like yourself. Perhaps you could furnish us with a link providing evidence of your assertion, or is it just more miserable ranting for the sake of it from you?

I suspect it may be the latter, going on past performance .... <doh>
 
Oh, so I'm talking ****e, am I? Funny how it's been discussed at quite a number of LUST meetings, open to all & available to listen to on t'internet. Including you. It's a well known fact to many people, apart from dyed-in-the-wool LUST haters like yourself. Perhaps you could furnish us with a link providing evidence of your assertion, or is it just more miserable ranting for the sake of it from you?

I suspect it may be the latter, going on past performance .... <doh>


My ranting is not miserable I am quite cheerful. How many more times, it doesn't matter how many times you post about these mutual love ins that you go to the vast majority couldn't give a **** and want lust to stfu. Even on here where there is a higher than average interest in the politics the majority ain't buying what ur selling.

The supporters club is the real voice of Leeds fans.
 
My ranting is not miserable I am quite cheerful. How many more times, it doesn't matter how many times you post about these mutual love ins that you go to the vast majority couldn't give a **** and want lust to stfu. Even on here where there is a higher than average interest in the politics the majority ain't buying what ur selling.

The supporters club is the real voice of Leeds fans.

Ah, so I was right! You're just talking bollox again. Absolutely nothing to back up your fantasies. Again.
 
I think I may as well show my opinion on this matter.

As far as LUST go, I don't feel they fully represent the whole of fan base particularly well, very opinionated and biased because realistically only people who have the same beliefs as Gary Cooper will join and that is who he will represent. Now of course this was always likely to happen because you can't realistically expect to be able to represent a million people accurately especially when it only has 10,000 or so members (I have no idea how many members there are incidentally).

I don't really agree wholeheartedly in their opinions and he (Cooper) does try to make LUST seem more important than what it is by stretching facts slightly, for example he clearly said that he had contacted the potential buyers before GFH came in and GFH replied saying they had never spoken to them before. That was a big low point for LUST and was unnecessary to even mention even if they had contacted them, why boast about it and just do what you think is right rather than trying to show everyone what you are doing it right. They don't really effect the club in anyway and whether that is there fault or the club's fault I don't know.

Having said all that, I think it is important for a club this size to have a respectable fanbase club and they are the closest thing to it and should try to continue to grow and become more effective.

On the global warming thing (which I have realised is very hard to communicate it well over the internet), I'd like to think I'm quite educated on the matter given that I'm in the engineering industry and a major part of what we do has to have huge environmental considerations, I also did a class on environmental studies at uni.

Now there has never been any concrete evidence that global warming exists or rather is implemented by humans and more and more scientists are saying that they are starting to believe that our impact on global warming is very minimal. My opinion is also that our impact on the globe is minimal and is far more restrained to local areas and impacts humans more than the earth. I think it is quite big headed of ourselves to believe that we, an animal, can effect the world in such a big way. Thats not saying that disasters don't cause difference in air temperatures or oxygen quality which at the end of the day effects ourselves more than the planet but they are far more local to the disaster and don't spread worldwide to cause a "global warming" effect.

GH is in fact right in saying that the weather naturally cycles. But in fact if you look at the world's temperatures over thousands of years or millions of years you will see a sin graph which accurately shows cycles. So I don't think we have anywhere near as big an impact as some people would have you believe (on a global scale that is).

I am still mindful of the environment (given my job) but the bigger issue is sustainable measures rather than global warming anyway, for example solar, wind and hydro power is far more sustainable than other power sources because they are never ending supplies.

Anyway, probably far more of an opinion than any of you wanted to know <laugh>

Tut tut tut....we all know that Green power is a liberal conspiracy to tax us God fearing conservatives:emoticon-0165-muscl

Anyway rising C02 levels in our atmosphere was and is never going to be a good thing even if it is by 1%. The theory of the majority of climate scientists is that C02 (as well as other gases such as Methane) absorbs IR radiation preventing it from bouncing straight back out into space heating the Earth. However the formulas for the theory that atmospheric gases such as C02 absorbs IR Radiation has only been run on computer simulations and has been disputed by several climatologists.

I personally believe that made made emissions of C02 have assisted the warming of the Earth rather than caused it. We are after all still technically in an ice age after all. Our universe isn't a constant. Just like a person it ages, changes, goes through cycles ect.

Disclaimer- Science is not my professional calling however I'm a keen follower so if an of my scientific knowledge is incorrect feel free to call me out on it :emoticon-0111-blush

Also whether or not global warming is man made or not our reliance on petroleum to fuel our society will ultimately be our downfall if we don't find alternatives. It is non-renewable so when its gone, it's gone and when it's gone the lorries taking the food to the supermarkets, the fossil fuel power stations, the boats, the planes ect will stop. People will loot and riot to feed themselves and we'd invade any oil rich country and loot them to keep us running ect and our current oil reserves would only last a couple of months at most. It makes the ITER one of the most important scientific projects of all time (how many other projects have potentially stopped worldwide societal collapse?)
 
Tut tut tut....we all know that Green power is a liberal conspiracy to tax us God fearing conservatives:emoticon-0165-muscl

Anyway rising C02 levels in our atmosphere was and is never going to be a good thing even if it is by 1%. The theory of the majority of climate scientists is that C02 (as well as other gases such as Methane) absorbs IR radiation preventing it from bouncing straight back out into space heating the Earth. However the formulas for the theory that atmospheric gases such as C02 absorbs IR Radiation has only been run on computer simulations and has been disputed by several climatologists.

I personally believe that made made emissions of C02 have assisted the warming of the Earth rather than caused it. We are after all still technically in an ice age after all. Our universe isn't a constant. Just like a person it ages, changes, goes through cycles ect.

Disclaimer- Science is not my professional calling however I'm a keen follower so if an of my scientific knowledge is incorrect feel free to call me out on it :emoticon-0111-blush


If greenhouse gases are causing climate change and you are so bothered why not stop producing all this hot air?
 
Ah, so I was right! You're just talking bollox again. Absolutely nothing to back up your fantasies. Again.

FFs jock just cos one of your small group of cronies tells you something at an anoraks convention it doesn't make it a fact no matter how often you repeat it. By more people hearing it, it would only become a bigger pile of bullshit.
 
My ranting is not miserable I am quite cheerful. How many more times, it doesn't matter how many times you post about these mutual love ins that you go to the vast majority couldn't give a **** and want lust to stfu. Even on here where there is a higher than average interest in the politics the majority ain't buying what ur selling.

The supporters club is the real voice of Leeds fans.

No YOU want LUST to stfu. Don't speak for other Leeds fans without actually knowing what they want like you accuse LUST off you hypocrite.
 
If greenhouse gases are causing climate change and you are so bothered why not stop producing all this hot air?

You sure you don't read the Daily Mail? It's almost like you copied and pasted from the Daily Mail's comment section...atleast I don't have to go for my daily laugh fest though.

Also read my comment first you bellend I explicatly said I didn't believe man made greenhouse gases (for a laugh name 3 GHGs without googling it) caused global warming but had exacerbated an already warming Earth. If GHGs do not cause heating of a planet when why is Venus so hot?

**** me creationists have more scientific knowledge than you GH.
 
I am posting my opinions but am more than happy to stop if they do.

'vast majority couldn't give a **** and want lust to stfu'

Have you met the vast majority of Leeds fans?
Did they tell you they wanted lust to stfu?

Can you provide any evidence to say the vast majority want LUST to shut up? Or is this baseless hot air with no credible evidence like the rest of your dribble throughout this thread.
 
FFs jock just cos one of your small group of cronies tells you something at an anoraks convention it doesn't make it a fact no matter how often you repeat it. By more people hearing it, it would only become a bigger pile of bullshit.

Again, I repeat, you're talking bollox again. When challenged to produce evidence to support your rantings, you just rant about something else. Again & again. At least you're consistent. Consistently ****.
 
You sure you don't read the Daily Mail? It's almost like you copied and pasted from the Daily Mail's comment section...atleast I don't have to go for my daily laugh fest though.

Also read my comment first you bellend I explicatly said I didn't believe man made greenhouse gases (for a laugh name 3 GHGs without googling it) caused global warming but had exacerbated an already warming Earth. If GHGs do not cause heating of a planet when why is Venus so hot?

**** me creationists have more scientific knowledge than you GH.

As already stated the earth and its climate heat and cool cyclically. The Thames used to freeze every winter and yorkshire used to be a sub tropical rainforest.
 
Again, I repeat, you're talking bollox again. When challenged to produce evidence to support your rantings, you just rant about something else. Again & again. At least you're consistent. Consistently ****.

All you ever do is repeat...........................

The only verifiable statement lust ever produced was the one about introducing gfh to the club. Haigh verified that as total bollocks or is he lying. Yes or no will do. Careful because as you put it yesterday the wrong answer would be actionable.
 
As already stated the earth and its climate heat and cool cyclically. The Thames used to freeze every winter and yorkshire used to be a sub tropical rainforest.

That in no way offers any evidence against the theory that greenhouse causes absorb IR Radiation heating the Earth. Tell me why you believe this theory is incorrect or why your theory is incompatible with GHGs assisting global warming.
 
'vast majority couldn't give a **** and want lust to stfu'

Have you met the vast majority of Leeds fans?
Did they tell you they wanted lust to stfu?

Can you provide any evidence to say the vast majority want LUST to shut up? Or is this baseless hot air with no credible evidence like the rest of your dribble throughout this thread.

Are you seriously thinking the silent majority are now interested in lust and its band of die hard wing nuts?
 
Are you seriously thinking the silent majority are now interested in lust and its band of die hard wing nuts?

Not at all but I defiantly don't think the 'silent majority' are interested in your crackpot theories.

You see I wasn't asking 'Does the silent majority of Leeds fans support LUST?' I was asking you 'Does the silent majority of Leeds fans support your crackpot theories about LUST?'

LUST have proved they support the views of a large percentage of the fanbase just by the sheer size of their membership (8,000 and not counting those non-members who may be sympathetic to LUST's aims). If they didn't represent their views they wouldn't be remembers. Simple.

You did neither. Just carried on insulting LUST. Which answers the question 'Why does Glory Hunter have no credibility?'
 
Not at all but I defiantly don't think the 'silent majority' are interested in your crackpot theories.

You see I wasn't asking 'Does the silent majority of Leeds fans support LUST?' I was asking you 'Does the silent majority of Leeds fans support your crackpot theories about LUST?'

LUST have proved they support the views of a large percentage of the fanbase just by the sheer size of their membership (8,000 and not counting those non-members who may be sympathetic to LUST's aims). If they didn't represent their views they wouldn't be remembers. Simple.

You did neither. Just carried on insulting LUST. Which answers the question 'Why does Glory Hunter have no credibility?'


Look my delusional tree hugging friend lust acquired 8000 people who were so anti bates they joined up. I was even one of them. Since then lust got caught over egging the pudding (lying) and bates sold up. To claim the original 8000 are still members is just bonkers. What lust have is a high watermark and passive interia.