Not606 2013 Hungarian GP Chat & Predictions

[TomTom94]

it's also worth pointing out that when Bernie suggested he could get Hamilton a seat at Mercedes (after Hamilton constantly whined that he wanted a seat at Red Bull) apparently he just rolled his eyes in disgust, yet strangely moved there anyway, and then they get their own private test with Pirelli early in the season. I wonder what could of changed his mind.

Bzzzzzzzt. Pirelli offered the test to all the teams. Mercedes were just the first to respond. Do try again.

Also, the money and chance of having no.1 status had nothing to do with his move to Mercedes?

This is exactly why i don't like Hamilton because he thinks the sport should always just be about him always winning in the best car, and showing he's the best driver, and it's inevitable that he'll get his way eventually.

Yes, because if there's anything that the drivers and teams have in this sport, it's too much influence.

What will be interesting is how many years of Hamilton constantly winning it would take for people to realize it's no more interesting to watch than Vettel dominating. With the added bonus of course of him still playing down the quality of the car to try and make his performance seem all the more impressive.

This was Hamilton's first win of the season?

 

[marklarmergerbilfarmer]

You can't have it both ways and say that Mercedes gained everything from the test and the other teams have gained nothing from theirs.

um the results from the races since clearly show that. Hence why people are questioning why, unfortunately because Hamiltons involved, people (especially in Britain) are supposed to just nod and repeat the phrase "Hamilton is the best driver" and not question/complain or criticize him in any way.

 

[SgtBhaji]

You can't have it both ways and say that Mercedes gained everything from the test and the other teams have gained nothing from theirs.

um the results from the races since clearly show that. Hence why people are questioning why, unfortunately because Hamiltons involved, people (especially in Britain) are supposed to just nod and repeat the phrase "Hamilton is the best driver" and not question/complain or criticize him in any way.

That's bollocks....

 

[51LV3R8RR04]

Hay look everybody, I'm not involved in this argument

 

[SgtBhaji]

Tell me who here are claiming that Hamilton is the be-all and end-all.... Hamilton fans aren't allowed to enjoy a win without hate, bias and generalization. It's ONE win.... wtf is wrong with people.

I didn't see Rosberg getting this level of hate... ridiculous.

 

[TomTom94]

um the results from the races since clearly show that. Hence why people are questioning why, unfortunately because Hamiltons involved, people (especially in Britain) are supposed to just nod and repeat the phrase "Hamilton is the best driver" and not question/complain or criticize him in any way.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc, in other words. As I said, there are plenty of potential causes for Mercedes' improved pace (for example, Monaco, the race immediately following the test, is notoriously easy on tyre wear and Mercedes went well there when Schumacher was at the team) and as Sarge pointed out, their improvement on the tyres has been exaggerated by the fact they were so poor beforehand.

Also once again, Sarge and I are being accused of being blind Hamilton fans I'm not entirely sure what more I have to say to prove I don't like Hamilton, I just don't blindly hate him as seems to be the "correct" way to act these days.

 

[marklarmergerbilfarmer]

That's bollocks....

i think some people need to step back and realize how absurd his followers appear to people who don't just blindly support and defend like everything he does.

 

[TomTom94]

i think some people need to step back and realize how absurd his followers appear to people who don't just blindly support and defend like everything he does.

If your problem is with his followers rather than with him then why are you taking it out on him?

 

[SgtBhaji]

If they carry on like this.. they may turn you in to a "Hamelot" TomTom.

The response to this win is incredible and I'm sick and tired of being lambasted for being a Hammy fan, when I'm very realistic about all things Hamilton related...

 

[SgtBhaji]

That's bollocks....

i think some people need to step back and realize how absurd his followers appear to people who don't just blindly support and defend like everything he does.

I don't blindly follow... I can acknowledged his shortcomings.. can you acknowledge his strengths?

 

[marklarmergerbilfarmer]

If your problem is with his followers rather than with him then why are you taking it out on him?

um no my problem is with him; his attitude, how highly he thinks of himself and how he seems to think F1 should be. Yes SgtBhaji of course i can acknowledge he's probably the fastest out there in many areas, but unfortunately for me, all the other negative things overshadow that....constantly. Whats worse is that those negative things are completely unnecessary, am i allowed to have an opinion?

 

[SgtBhaji]

If your problem is with his followers rather than with him then why are you taking it out on him?

um no my problem is with him; his attitude, how highly he thinks of himself and how he seems to think F1 should be. Yes SgtBhaji of course i can acknowledge he's probably the fastest out there in many areas, but unfortunately for me, all the other negative things overshadow that....constantly. Whats worse is that those negative things are completely unnecessary, am i allowed to have an opinion?

Yes... you are allowed to have an opinion, but don't categorized me negatively just because I support Hamilton.

 

[SgtBhaji]

One other thing I should point out... I am first and foremost a Formula 1 fan and a motor racing fan. I follow many disciplines of motor sport and have for 30 years. Formula 1 is not something I watch because it's on prime-time. It's my passion, as is motor racing in general... so don't try to accuse me of being some kind of blind follower.

 

[TomTom94]

how he seems to think F1 should be.

Um...what? If you mean he wants to have the fastest car... doesn't every driver?

 

[Han Shot First]

Tell me who here are claiming that Hamilton is the be-all and end-all.... Hamilton fans aren't allowed to enjoy a win without hate, bias and generalization. It's ONE win.... wtf is wrong with people.

I didn't see Rosberg getting this level of hate... ridiculous.

Because Britney's not a whining spoilt hypocrite, with a penchant to annoy before he even opens his mouth.

 

[51LV3R8RR04]

To be honest the more and more I watch F1 the more I discover they're not in it for the honor like Jacques Villeneuve or the respect of their fans like they try to make out. They just want to win hook or by crook, PERIOD!

 

[SgtBhaji]

Tell me who here are claiming that Hamilton is the be-all and end-all.... Hamilton fans aren't allowed to enjoy a win without hate, bias and generalization. It's ONE win.... wtf is wrong with people.

I didn't see Rosberg getting this level of hate... ridiculous.

Because Britney's not a whining spoilt hypocrite, with a penchant to annoy before he even opens his mouth.

If that's what you believe, then what does that have to do with racing? Nothing.

 

[SgtBhaji]

To be honest the more and more I watch F1 the more I discover they're not in it for the honor like Jacques Villeneuve or the respect of their fans like they try to make out. They just want to win hook or by crook, PERIOD!

Because they are racing drivers... of course they do? What do you expect? A game of Sunday Cricket. It's all about winning... this isn't either new or exciting.

And WTH does Jacques have to do with anything?

 

[marklarmergerbilfarmer]

Um...what? If you mean he wants to have the fastest car... doesn't every driver?

sorry, again you're just desperately trying to make it seem like there's nothing remotely different or negative about Hamiltons compared to other drivers, when he's spent the last couple of years whining like a little bitch because "Vettels had the fastest car", unfortunately people do kind of occasionally read about and listen to him constantly moaning, and his attitude is obviously far more arrogant and childish than any other driver out there. He seems to think he's far more entitled to the fastest car than any other driver. *waits for people to say everything about him is irrelevant*

 

[SgtBhaji]

All I can say to the response to Hamilton winning is that it's disgusting... The sooner F1 goes back to being a minority supported sport, the better. Both the racing and the fan-base was better.