Moyes loses again.

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Very much so. It's even harder when you consider that even the Americans beat the Japanese.
 
Moyes. And yes it does work if you have listened to him over the past 10 years. If it goes wrong his failsafe is to blame the lack of funds. He cannot do that at united so will be interesting to hear his excuses.
 
Moyes. And yes it does work if you have listened to him over the past 10 years. If it goes wrong his failsafe is to blame the lack of funds. He cannot do that at united so will be interesting to hear his excuses.

Yeh, finishing 6th, 7th, 7th in the league in the past 3 seasons on Everton's budget has been a failure riddled with excuses. Imagine if Dalglish or Rodgers had those funds to play with, we'd all be talking about Liverpool's return to championship dominance. That's Championship!
 
They've got the 7th largest budget so it's hardly Florence Nightingale stuff. A club of Everton's size should have won a trophy at the very least. Even Wigan have.
 
They've got the 7th largest budget so it's hardly Florence Nightingale stuff. A club of Everton's size should have won a trophy at the very least. Even Wigan have.

I get the argument that he could have won a trophy. Whether Everton fans would swap an FA Cup win and relegation for top half of the table stability is a question for them. Perhaps he's not a cup manager, arguably Fergie wasn't, but his league record over the past few years has been impressive. I think everyone knows that and it's why Liverpool fans in particular dislike him. Since the 2006/7 season Everton's net spend has been £2million. Liverpool's has been £142million and Everton are currently the top team on Merseyside.

A few other comparables:
Arsenal - £40million profit (amazing really)
Fulham - £26million spend
Stoke - £80million spend
Sunderland - £88million spend
Man United - £88million spend
Aston Villa - £92million spend
Chelsea - £233million spend
Man City - £427million spend

Not sure where you get the 7th largest budget theory from DL!

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine...evealed-2006-when-arsenal-moved-s-194227?p=19
 
Somtimes just because the Club has massive wealth behind them, doesn't mean it gets spent. My work colleague who supports Everton says that Kenwright doesn't like spending and it prevents them from competing with the teams they should be. They spend relatively little every Season and still finish in the top 8 every time.

Compare Everton's spending with the likes of Tottenham, Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City etc, then Everton are doing very well indeed.
 
I get the argument that he could have won a trophy. Whether Everton fans would swap an FA Cup win and relegation for top half of the table stability is a question for them. Perhaps he's not a cup manager, arguably Fergie wasn't, but his league record over the past few years has been impressive. I think everyone knows that and it's why Liverpool fans in particular dislike him. Since the 2006/7 season Everton's net spend has been £2million. Liverpool's has been £142million and Everton are currently the top team on Merseyside.

A few other comparables:
Arsenal - £40million profit (amazing really)
Fulham - £26million spend
Stoke - £80million spend
Sunderland - £88million spend
Man United - £88million spend
Aston Villa - £92million spend
Chelsea - £233million spend
Man City - £427million spend

Not sure where you get the 7th largest budget theory from DL!

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine...evealed-2006-when-arsenal-moved-s-194227?p=19

You've filed to take into consideration wage bill, which on average costs more than transfers.
 
I'd imagine their wage bill is far lower than sixth or seventh highest though.

For DL's 7th largest budget theory to stack up, Everton's wage bill would need to be in the top two or three in the league seeing as they spend so little on transfers. No doubt he'll be able to confirm this.
 
Where are Wigan,Swansea,Birmingham? They managed to win trophies with much less than BA Moyes had to work with.

Two of them are in the Championship. Credit to the other one, they won a trophy and stayed in the PL although they didn't have to beat a big club to win their cup. Good point, well made.