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Which should leave Arsenal for good>?

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afcftw said:
@goonercym

We do have a larger global fanbase than Liverpool - you seem to be living in the past as well Old Man ;)

Go find some recent figures and im sure you'll find all 3 of Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea in the top 5 along with Barca and Real. With Liverpool lingering somewhere between 6th and 10th.

And there is nothing wrong with living in the north west - spent the best part of 2 years living in the north west - lovely people and enjoyed my time there :) Not sure where your getting the idea i have a problem with the north west of the country?
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There is no way I believe we have a larger global fanbase than Liverpool.I know Granada once said we had a global fanbase of 30M.There is also no way that Chelsea have a bigger fan base.What's that saying about statistics and lies ?



I think you'll find your living in the past my friend. It's ok, it seems to be a common problem up in your part of the country.
This I took to be an insult about the North West <grr>
 
@astro

How does him being the second longest serving belittle his achievments as the second most successful? Is Ferguson no good because he was the longest serving? The only reason they alst so long is because they do so well - other clubs could have had managers that long, they just didn't find good enough ones to last that long! What ridiculous logic...

And as i say - i will hand it to you that you have won the CL where Wenger hasn't - i was cheering for Liverpool when they won it as well! But Arsenal have performed in the competition on a more consistent basis which cant be denied either.
 
@goonercym

1) We really do - just do a quick google search - Liverpool have around 70mil fans worldwide whilst we have 110mil+ according to a handful of sources dated between 2011 and 2013. Don't think some people realise how much Chelsea and Arsenal have grown as clubs, fanbase wise, around the world over the last 10 years. Particularly in Asia but also in Africa for Arsenal. Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca and Real are the 5 most supported clubs worldwide.

2) That was a little joke aimed at the whole Liverpool live in the past idea - might just not have been very funny!
 
afcftw said:
@goonercym

1) We really do - just do a quick google search - Liverpool have around 70mil fans worldwide whilst we have 110mil+ according to a handful of sources dated between 2011 and 2013. Don't think some people realise how much Chelsea and Arsenal have grown as clubs, fanbase wise, around the world over the last 10 years. Particularly in Asia but also in Africa for Arsenal. Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca and Real are the 5 most supported clubs worldwide.

2) That was a little joke aimed at the whole Liverpool live in the past idea - might just not have been very funny!
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You do realise that Liverpool is the capital of North Wales <grr>
I must say that i'm shocked at your figures regarding fan bases<ok>
 
goonercymraeg said:
Some reports say that Liverpool only have to inform Suarez if a bid of over £40M is made.There seems to be a number of contradictory statements over the actual wording of the contract and as far as I can see nobody seems to know the truth.
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The wording is irrelavent, to put a price on the ability of a club to talk to a player about a transfer is a tacit acceptance that that is his value.
 
Diego said:
The player has made it clear he want`s to leave the club and it has been widely publicised (so no tapping up), the club have a "clause" which states he can talk to any club who offers above £40 million pound for him. Regardless of how the contract is worded there is not a tribunal in the land that would not see this as the club saying if someone offered more than the stated price the player would be allowed to leave if he wished. Arsenal have met this value the club put on him, the only chance Liverpool have of getting more is if someone else bids more, since nobody else has shown the slightest interest i fear you will have to accept £40,000,000 + £1.00.
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No the clause says they have to let the player know there has been interest and someone has offered over £40M it is NOT like Spain where making a bid over the release clause means the team has to sell. Liverpool are within their rights to refuse to sell any player they do not wish to sell or do not wish to sell at any particular price. So any tribunal in the land would have to side with Liverpool on this one please read up on the laws on employment before making sweeping incorrect statements like that.
 
Diego said:
The player has made it clear he want`s to leave the club and it has been widely publicised (so no tapping up), the club have a "clause" which states he can talk to any club who offers above £40 million pound for him. Regardless of how the contract is worded there is not a tribunal in the land that would not see this as the club saying if someone offered more than the stated price the player would be allowed to leave if he wished. Arsenal have met this value the club put on him, the only chance Liverpool have of getting more is if someone else bids more, since nobody else has shown the slightest interest i fear you will have to accept £40,000,000 + £1.00.
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Just think for a moment about your own contract of employment (assuming that you are not self-employed). I have no way of knowing the exact terms of that contract unless either you or your employer tell me.

Now Arsenal are barred from talking directly to either Suarez or his agent without written permission from Liverpool. Neither of them would be allowed to divulge specifics of that contract such as this clause. Therefore Arsenal have been more than just a little silly by offering £40,000,001.

Now as YOU are so confident in your opinion then you will be able to give chapter and verse on the rules that would demand that LFC would have to attend any tribunal regarding their contractual arrangements with Suarez. You could then go further and present the wording of that clause so that we could all see what it says. Put simply mate you can't and you're talking out of the top of your head - typical Manc!

IF Arsenal want Suarez then either offer a far higher sum or go away. As for LFC and Suarez that's for them to sort out.
 
hawkmoonfy2 said:
No the clause says they have to let the player know there has been interest and someone has offered over £40M it is NOT like Spain where making a bid over the release clause means the team has to sell. Liverpool are within their rights to refuse to sell any player they do not wish to sell or do not wish to sell at any particular price. So any tribunal in the land would have to side with Liverpool on this one please read up on the laws on employment before making sweeping incorrect statements like that.
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Just read about the last 5/6 pages, and finally someone with sense comes along <applause>

Some of the garbage I've been reading I wouldn't even entertain a reply. And that's from your fans and our fans - so I'm not siding one way or another.

P.S. Add to that the club can refuse for Suarez to talk to the club, Suarez can only be told of the bid - LFC are the only one's that can negotiate.
 
goonercymraeg said:
Just to add to the intrigue regarding Suarez there are rumours that Fenway are looking to sell LFC
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Which was swiftly denied by our owners as someone making rumours up. Probably connected to the Suarez ordeal - some twat trying to unsteady the ship.
 
afcftw said:
@astro

How does him being the second longest serving belittle his achievments as the second most successful? Is Ferguson no good because he was the longest serving? The only reason they alst so long is because they do so well - other clubs could have had managers that long, they just didn't find good enough ones to last that long! What ridiculous logic...

And as i say - i will hand it to you that you have won the CL where Wenger hasn't - i was cheering for Liverpool when they won it as well! But Arsenal have performed in the competition on a more consistent basis which cant be denied either.
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Good morning gooners...

You are also very consistent at not winning trophies. 8 years and counting. Why be so proud just to qualify?

:emoticon-0159-music ...16 times, We've won it 16 times, European qualification, we've won it 16 times :emoticon-0159-music
 
astroturfnaut said:
Good morning gooners...

You are also very consistent at not winning trophies. 8 years and counting. Why be so proud just to qualify?

:emoticon-0159-music ...16 times, We've won it 16 times, European qualification, we've won it 16 times :emoticon-0159-music
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Ast give us some rep you fiend - can't rep you as it says I need to spread first <ok>
 
Diego said:
The wording is irrelavent, to put a price on the ability of a club to talk to a player about a transfer is a tacit acceptance that that is his value.
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No, it's an acceptance that it is a serious offer and so the player might want to made aware of it.

No club wold put a value on a player in a contract because it depends on so many things, e.g. current form, injuries, buying club, strength of rest of squad. When actual release clauses are added to contracts, they are called such.

If you want to claim we have put a value on Suarez with his contract, then it would be £40m plus the cost of his contract (about £6m/year * 5 years = £30m) so £70m. Offer £70m and we have a deal <ok>
 
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