Sorry mate but you obviously don't have much experience of commercial contract disputes. There is NO such thing as a black and white clause in a contract.
Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)
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Sorry mate but you obviously don't have much experience of commercial contract disputes. There is NO such thing as a black and white clause in a contract.
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I know employment law / contracts are complicated but I would have thought this one would be pretty straight forward. Fair enough if that's not the case. however, if it does go down that route that Luis' position becomes untenable anyway and other clubs aren't going to keen on buying a player for a large amount of money if they are prepared to take a club to court.
I don't think it will go that far.
The bid itself is very telling. If l'arse have cash to splash they'd not have made that offer that clearly got the backs up of LFC owners. My guess is they can't go past 45 and hoped to get Suarez to do some work for them. Would be interesting question to ask who out of Suarez camp gave them so precise a figure? That would be proof of talking to another club before permission is given since we've simply being saying he's not for sale. Add that to any lawyer meetings: we'll sue you for breach of contract & report arsenal to the FA for talking to a players reps before we say ok.
They'll go to 45. We should say no.
In fact! Since its nowhere near our valuation we add another 5m just for Arsenal and they been twats about it.
The bid itself is very telling. If l'arse have cash to splash they'd not have made that offer that clearly got the backs up of LFC owners. My guess is they can't go past 45 and hoped to get Suarez to do some work for them. Would be interesting question to ask who out of Suarez camp gave them so precise a figure? That would be proof of talking to another club before permission is given since we've simply being saying he's not for sale. Add that to any lawyer meetings: we'll sue you for breach of contract & report arsenal to the FA for talking to a players reps before we say ok.
They'll go to 45. We should say no.
In fact! Since its nowhere near our valuation we add another 5m just for Arsenal and they been twats about it.
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I was going to say that and point out that we could have a case against Arsenal but then, they could just point to all media outlets and say that's what they based it on.
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Whether Suarez joins them or not, there is going to be an increased rivalry in our games now.
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Got to be better than the ''battle for 4th / 5th'' rivalry
You looking forward to it then?
His ban doesn't count in other leagues/European competition. It is a ban by the FA so he can only be banned for FA competitions (PL, League Cup, FA Cup, Charity Shield).
I thought ban can be upheld depending on the country's FA? i.e. Spain could waive it?
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers says striker Luis Suarez has been treated 'like a son' during his time at Anfield. Suarez, who wants to hold talks with Arsenal over a potential move to the London club, added: "He's very much a Liverpool player and over the course of the next couple of weeks we've got to get him up to speed.
"The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled. In this period of time he's missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son and really looked after him.
"Whatever happens in the coming weeks that will be in his mind because it's something you can never forget."
"The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled. In this period of time he's missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son and really looked after him.
"Whatever happens in the coming weeks that will be in his mind because it's something you can never forget."
That IS news to me, I haven't done my research on that. You could be right.
Unless the club are in the wrong about the transfer clause
This is the crux of the issue right here. Arsenal fans can wind up Liverpool fans and Liverpool fans can swagger back, but the nuts and bolts of it will be decided by the lawyers. I am not a legal expert, but if Liverpool are right and the clause does just mean that they need to let Suarez know about an offer, it seems to be a somewhat pointless clause to put in a contract, and it then comes down to what the parties believed when they were signing it.
The letter of the contract is sometimes less significant than the intent. If Suarez believed he had a buyout clause and his agents have supporting documents to show that when they negotiated the contract, the intent of the clause was to act as a buyout, then even if it was badly transcribed into the final document, it will hold up. Not only that, but if the contract was written with the deliberate intent to deceive, then it gets worse, the contract itself could be declared void and Liverpool might end up in very bad shape.
As I say, I haven't really got a clue, but this isn't something that is going to depend on what Arsenal fans or Liverpool fans want. It is going to be a bunch of old people in a dark room pouring over very dull documents.
Liverpool have no reason to let Suarez go for that price and Arsenal probably wont want to go any higher, so it all comes down to the clause in the contract, which might well be in two languages and have a whole host of complications.
What a one-sided analysis that is!
You are right when you say that it is not just the letter but also the intent of contractual terms that are important when considering contractual disputes. However a contract of this complexity will almost certainly contain and undertaking detailing the place and law that will be applied to any arbitration process should a dispute arise regarding the terms or performance of the contract.
I really don't understand why you should even suggest that LFC would engage in contractual practices based upon deception. There is no evidence of that. The club, to the best of my knowledge have never been accused of engaging in such procedures. You comment is in effect a slur.
As for the understanding of Suarez and his agent then it is their responsibility to know and understand the terms and conditions of the contract that they are signing no matter what language it is written in.