2017 City of Culture

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A good piece on Look North about it.

The usual vox pop with the 'Hull problem' succinctly encapsulated.

A non local chap who was in favour balanced by a local mouthbreather woman of the most charmless, boorish, negative 'It's **** round 'ere. Why would we win it?' type.

She's from the twagger, armchair LFC, snide cigs, takeaway, littering element who holds this city back with their stubborn refusal to either put their shoulder to the wheel or **** off and live somewhere else.
 
Swansea Bay (Swansea, Carmarthenshire, Neath and Port Talbot)

Local stars: Dylan Thomas, Catherine Zeta Jones, Russell T Davies.

Cultural landmarks: Swansea's Glynn Vivian Art Gallery is having a £6m facelift. The town of Port Talbot was the stage for the National Theatre Wales' 72-hour production of The Passion starring Michael Sheen in 2011.

Plans: A festival for unsigned musicians, a high-tech history laboratory and a children's pageant of drama, song, dance and design.

Odds: 2/1 (all odds from William Hill)

Hull already has one of those too.

Looking at Dundee, if I was them, I wouldn't base a 'culture' bid on a TATE gallery - almost a 'chain', 'manufactured', supermarket version of culture - As good as their collections are, it's more about being 'flashy' - I'd say Ferens is much better based on what it has to work with and with such a small budget (though if you've been to see the latest Martin Creed exhibition, you'll admit it's probably pushing the boundaries a bit too much for joe public).

Hull probably has a lot more culturally to offer, we just need to win this accolade to thrust it all into the limelight and to help take each event up a gear. Events like Freedom and Humber St Sesh could be huge with the added attendances winning this would bring, meaning extra money coming in to make such events bigger and better year on year.
 
It's city centre is far nicer, and actually has open shops and people visiting.
There's far more choice is food/restaurants.
There's more jobs/less unemployment (and a higher population).
It doesn't have it's own awful phone/Internet company do you can get a properly decent line.
The architecture is nicer.
It doesn't have it's own dedicated tv programme about the scumbags and their illegal activities.
There's more nightclubs/bars.
There's a more diverse culture.
It's society isn't personified to the world by its football clubs shirt sponsor.
It has 2 properly big sporting teams compared to hulls one (I wouldn't consider hull fc as big nationwide)
It's further away from Scotland.
As its closer to the equator it has better weather.
It doesn't have councillors Brady and Gerraghty running the place.
You don't have to pay to leave/enter the city from the south.
It has a giant slide for university students to piss down at their leisure.
2 universities which both attract international students.
The M1 runs right past it.
Red Leicester was invented here.
It doesn't have people who shag goats infront of trains full of women and children.

And many more things I'm sure I'm forgetting <ok>

You do realise culture has nothing to do with:

how many estates a places has
how many chavs a place has
how many pot holes a place has
how many variations of countries it's university's students come from
how many shops are vacant
how large the rate of unemployment is
how large the roads are which lead to it

...and so on?

Real culture is what Hull has in abundance - art, music, theatre, poetry, sport, festivals, museums, traditions, history.
 
Hull

Local stars: Philip Larkin, The Housemartins, Maureen Lipman.

Cultural landmarks: The Ferens Art Gallery broke visitor records with a Da Vinci exhibition last year. The Hull Truck theatre was a national force in the 1970s and 1980s and is starting to get back on track.

Plans: 1,500 events, 25 festivals - including a city-wide flag festival - and 12 artists' residencies, including a composer in residence on the Humber Bridge and a resident choreographer at the KC Stadium.

Odds: 11/4


In terms of Plans, Hull sounds the best so far, the others don't seem to have put as much effort into the planning of when they win and instead just focused on what they have already

...and that doesn't include the fact Hull's bid is duelled with it's 10 year City Plan, which will add the C4DI complex to the Fruit Market area, along with a David Hockney gallery, a cruise terminal and the HMS Illustrious.
 
The surrounding countryside and villages are **** all to do with the city and even if they were, Leicester has beautiful surrounding areas with rich history. Even Yorkshires favourite log found it fit to die here.

Of course they have, as it's all part of the area that makes up the East Riding, of which Hull is the major conurbation.

I'm not talking about the criteria for this UK city of culture malarkey anyway, I'm talking in general terms, as that was the question you asked & having spent time in both Cities, my opinion is that Leicester is a **** pit in comparison to Hull. <ok>

The surrounding countryside is directly connected to Hull's cultural offering, hence the tourism body being called 'Visit Hull & East Yorkshire' - Hull is the epicentre for which tourists use as a base to discover Hull and East Yorkshire's tourist attractions.

Hull is unique in that you get the urban city offering, countryside and seaside all in one package.

Did you spend time in the surrounding areas? Clearly not, we have more Britain in bloom finalists than any other part of the island. And we were talking about the cities, so the surrounding areas have **** all to do with it <ok>

Ps. Having spent time in both cities, my opinion of hull is its a **** out, and the surrounding countryside and villages are full and boring.

Yes, it's soo dull and boring that David Hockney took it upon himself to paint the dull and boring landscape.
 
David Attenbrough was born in Leicester ... and without his many documentaries City Agro might never have recognised that true love could be found down by the railway lines ...
 
If only we had some one willing to increase the size of the KC Stadium and develope the ****ty Walton street car park , maybe build a state of the art sports village and create jobs.

I'm sure Hull would piss it then.
 
A good piece on Look North about it.

The usual vox pop with the 'Hull problem' succinctly encapsulated.

A non local chap who was in favour balanced by a local mouthbreather woman of the most charmless, boorish, negative 'It's **** round 'ere. Why would we win it?' type.

She's from the twagger, armchair LFC, snide cigs, takeaway, littering element who holds this city back with their stubborn refusal to either put their shoulder to the wheel or **** off and live somewhere else.

Spot on ..

As for including the East Riding - half the population is our suburbs anyway