Anyone going to this? http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/demonstration-at-premier-league-and-football-league-19th-june
I would be totally fine with this happening, but even if it was would clubs start ripping their seats out? I can't see where the incentive would be apart from a mild PR bonus, it would only cost money in redesigning and reduced ticket income.
They would definately not lose money if standing was introduced thats for sure! And wouldn't they only do 1 stand. so pricing will only affect that, everything else as is?
Its a myth that reintroducing standing areas would cheapen tickets. Knowing how football chairman think these days, they'd probably charge MORE for the priviledge of standing. Partly by saying it cost X amount to take out seats, install barriers or even the german safe standing rail seats etc etc. The clubs will recoup that expenditure somehow. Plus the capacity would not necessarily increase much. For safe standing, they won't allow densely populated ends like in the old days. People won't be squashed in like sardines, there would be a calculation produced for area of terrace per capacity etc. Plus the old bill would charge more to police terraces. No quite sure how Peterborough continue to get away with having terraces in the Championship (appreciate they are relegated now so its ok to have them)
The Premier League needs to really take a leaf out of the Bundesliga's book. Season tickets average about 2 thirds less than they do in the Premier League. You get the option of being in a seated or standing area in stadiums and all tickets include public transport to and from the stadiums (trains, trams and buses). The only downside is you get 17 home matches instead of the 19 you get in England, but this is a small price to pay when you compare the cost of season tickets.
Most Bundesliga season tickets aren't significantly cheaper, only the grotty standing areas are dirt cheap. The rest are still cheaper, but it's misleading to say that it applies for anywhere near the majority of season tickets.
COMPARISON OF PREMIER LEAGUE AND BUNDESLIGA SEASON TICKETS All for 2012-2013 season PREMIER LEAGUE Arsenal £985-£1,955 Aston Villa £295-£580 (Earlybird), £325-£595 afterwards Chelsea £595-£1,250 Everton £399-£597.60 (Earlybird), £443-£672 afterwards Fulham £399-£597.60 (Earlybird), £499-£959 Liverpool £725-£780 Manchester City £275-£745 Manchester United £532-£950 Newcastle United £373-£717 Norwich City £547-£608 Queens Park Rangers £499-£949 Reading £375-425 (Earlybird), £525-£595 Stoke City £399-£599 Sunderland £425-£525 Swansea City £449-£499 Tottenham Hotspur £730-£1,845 West Bromwich Albion £349-£449 West Ham United £600-£850 Wigan Athletic £255-£350 BUNDESLIGA Augsburg £274-£469 Bayer Leverkusen £133-£450 Bayern Munich £104-£540 Borussia Dortmund £303-£823 Borussia Monchengladbach £274-£511 Eintracht Frankfurt £267-£635 Fortuna Dusseldorf £212-£574 Freiburg £307-£590 Greuther Furth £258-£407 Hamburg £230-£603 Hannover £75-£278 Hoffenheim £212-£475 Mainz £155-£516 Nuremburg £200-£729 Schalke 04 £303-£735 Stuttgart £145-£607 Werder Bremen £141-£498 Wolfsburg £174-£450
Okay, so now get the figures that show the average seated season ticket in the Bundesliga is 33% of the average seated season ticket in the Premier League.
Ok, not quite 33%, more like 50%. But this does represent a significant difference between the two leagues.
Yes it does. There's no denying there's a lot we can learn in this country from the way the Bundesliga is set up and run. Don't hold you're breathe though - Sky makes all the important decisions that effect the PL. Effectively, the PL is Rupert Murdoch's bitch.
Yep, look at that "grotty standing area" at Dortmund. How vulgar. That's not what football is about. please log in to view this image
Wouldn't want to watch a match from anywhere like that. How many can actually see anything? Okay if all you want is atmosphere, before running home and watching the highlights to see what you missed.
CBK, aren't you upset at how many of them have bought into the commercialism? So much club tat in there, I thought you were strongly against spending big money for polyester? But yeah looks good, imagine being in a big sweaty den full of Northam boyz, bet that'd be fun and not **** and grotty at all.
