Loic Remy

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Who cares?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Footballers get accused of rape all the time, and most of the time it's just some stupid skank lying to get attention. They do it because they know that there, for some reason, isn't a significant punishment for those who falsely accuse those of rape, but there's a chance she'll get some money to shut up or he'll get put away for a long time for being found guilty without sufficient evidence.

These bitches don't realise that they're hurting real victims of rape. With all these bitches lying, it makes us all treat the real victims of rape as probable liars.

The more of you women that lie, the more often that rapists get away with it, and more often those poor lasses who do get raped, don't get justice.

It's ridiculous that those women who later admit they were lying don't even get a sentence.

We need to make sure those who are found out as liars are punished severely. And I don't mean when there's not enough evidence to convict someone, I mean when someone is found to be lying out their ass, making up a story and being inconsistent with what they say.
 
Who cares?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Footballers get accused of rape all the time, and most of the time it's just some stupid skank lying to get attention. They do it because they know that there, for some reason, isn't a significant punishment for those who falsely accuse those of rape, but there's a chance she'll get some money to shut up or he'll get put away for a long time for being found guilty without sufficient evidence.

These bitches don't realise that they're hurting real victims of rape. With all these bitches lying, it makes us all treat the real victims of rape as probable liars.
The more of you women that lie, the more often that rapists get away with it, and more often those poor lasses who do get raped, don't get justice.

It's ridiculous that those women who later admit they were lying don't even get a sentence.

We need to make sure those who are found out as liars are punished severely. And I don't mean when there's not enough evidence to convict someone, I mean when someone is found to be lying out their ass, making up a story and being inconsistent with what they say.

When I read this bit I can't help but picture you with a cap on back to front, big gold chain and a clock round your neck, making lots of hand gestures like some gangstar rapper. <laugh>

Kudos for use of the word skank too.
 
But yet Bramble is guilty even though he wasnt (but he still is to you lot) (i know its just banter on a forum but still)

@ tash because other women have lied it makes this one a liar as well then without it even going to court, I agree with innocent until proven Guilty, but you cant turn it on its head and say she is a lieing bitch just because others have lied. and tbh which ones have?

The 6 from the lower leagues got sent down didnt they? The one from a Shefield club got 6 years, Brambles Brother got sent down, Bramble didnt rape anyway it was more touchy feely and an over exuberant taxi driver that reported it.

lets just see what happens but you defending him in the way you have is just silly.
 
But yet Bramble is guilty even though he wasnt (but he still is to you lot) (i know its just banter on a forum but still)

@ tash because other women have lied it makes this one a liar as well then without it even going to court, I agree with innocent until proven Guilty, but you cant turn it on its head and say she is a lieing bitch just because others have lied. and tbh which ones have?

The 6 from the lower leagues got sent down didnt they? The one from a Shefield club got 6 years, Brambles Brother got sent down, Bramble didnt rape anyway it was more touchy feely and an over exuberant taxi driver that reported it.

lets just see what happens but you defending him in the way you have is just silly.

When did I say she is lying because other ones have lied? I'm saying it isn't uncommon for girls to lie about being raped by people with money, or people who they don't like.

However, I think all rape allegations should be taken seriously so the right verdict is given.

I'm not calling this girl a liar, I'm simply stating that Loic Remy should not have his reputation in any way damaged over accusations of rape.

It's annoying that the papers are allowed to publish the names of those involved before anything has been decided, because people then treat the accused individual differently, like he/she is already guilty.

It's like these days you're guilty until proven innocent, instead of innocent until proven guilty.
 
Rape or no rape, he's guilty of turning us down once so he can swivel for all I care.

He's clearly not all there &#8211; if he'd joined us we'd have been comfortably safe and he wouldn't have gone down with QPR. But no, money prevailed over common sense.

Not good enough either I don't think, too flaky in terms of finishing like Cisse. We need a proper goalscorer who can net tap-ins, score with his head, not just spectacular strikes...
 
Bramble was guilty as sin............allegedly.............maybe

I've got nothing against the big pervert personally, the longer he is on the loose, the more a defence is suffering Titusshitis some where. Nasty disease, we had an outbreak a few years back.
 
Who cares?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Footballers get accused of rape all the time, and most of the time it's just some stupid skank lying to get attention. They do it because they know that there, for some reason, isn't a significant punishment for those who falsely accuse those of rape, but there's a chance she'll get some money to shut up or he'll get put away for a long time for being found guilty without sufficient evidence.

These bitches don't realise that they're hurting real victims of rape. With all these bitches lying, it makes us all treat the real victims of rape as probable liars.

The more of you women that lie, the more often that rapists get away with it, and more often those poor lasses who do get raped, don't get justice.

It's ridiculous that those women who later admit they were lying don't even get a sentence.

We need to make sure those who are found out as liars are punished severely. And I don't mean when there's not enough evidence to convict someone, I mean when someone is found to be lying out their ass, making up a story and being inconsistent with what they say.

"Footballers get accused of rape all the time and most of the time it's just some slack trying to.get some attention"

Examples please??
 
"Footballers get accused of rape all the time and most of the time it's just some slack trying to.get some attention"

Examples please??

<doh> I don't have any articles at my disposal to give you an example, but it doesn't take a brain to figure out that since there's no punishment for lying about rape, or very little punishment, that people will do it.

One example of a famous person getting put in prison for false accusations was a young NFL player, who got put away for 10 years, and after a decade, the woman admitted she was lying.

He never got those 10 years back, and she got no punishment.

You might say NFL isn't the same as football. W/e. People make **** up about rich people.

I'm not going to provide statistics about what percentage of rape allegations end in sentences, mainly because stats don't tell the whole story, but my main point is that we should not be viewing those who are accused of rape as rapists until they have been proven guilty.
 
He raped QPR for wages as well, but you dont see arry looking all mumpy faced and moan.....actually nvm. Probably Pardew anyway.
 
<doh> I don't have any articles at my disposal to give you an example, but it doesn't take a brain to figure out that since there's no punishment for lying about rape, or very little punishment, that people will do it.

One example of a famous person getting put in prison for false accusations was a young NFL player, who got put away for 10 years, and after a decade, the woman admitted she was lying.

He never got those 10 years back, and she got no punishment.

You might say NFL isn't the same as football. W/e. People make **** up about rich people.

I'm not going to provide statistics about what percentage of rape allegations end in sentences, mainly because stats don't tell the whole story, but my main point is that we should not be viewing those who are accused of rape as rapists until they have been proven guilty.

In other words Tash, you're talking nonsense as usual. You can only give one vague example, in the US, for something you said is happening "all the time"!!

In addition, if you did a little bit of research you would find that in this country any woman found guilty of making a false accusation of rape invariably gets a custodial sentence. Indeed, a woman who did that last year was imprisoned this Monday Monday at Leeds Crown Court!!!

Next time you might perhaps first engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear.
 
I think what we can say from any position of knowledge is that far more allegations of rape are brought against footballers than result in convictions. Beyond that it's a bit speculative.

One reason that there are relatively few convictions might be that the footballers are innocent (as they are of course presumed to be).

One reason people who we must presume are innocent get charged with rape could be a desire for money or attention on the part of the complainants.

There are other possible explanations though:

a. the persons who may or may not be victims were young and drunk at the time, which can make a conviction difficult to secure

b. the footballers can afford very good lawyers

c. deals best left unexamined are done to cause the persons who may or may not be victims to withdraw their allegations, or to say that they can't be sure after all

Remy is presumed innocent until proven guilty. People who must be presumed innocent, though, are often guilty as hell.
 
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