That deflated feeling....

Is anyone else feeling really deflated about all things Toon right now?
I just feel kinda spaced out in that I'm looking forward to getting 'over the line' to the Summer break so I can recharge my batteries and see the next few games as a sideshow (an important one I grant you).
It's felt like he longest season ever and is the complete opposite to last year where I didn't want the season to end.
Pardew can come out with all the positives and fist pumping he wants but he no longer gets the reaction he used to...
Changing times...

 

Was desperate for three points against westbrom because in my opinion that would see us safe and on a personal note for me, could relax and just **** the rest Of the season off. We will be safe I reckon but we are limping over the line.

 

Just want this **** to be over, we make our changes and get back to atleast some mid table relaxation and healing next season. **** another European push, we've proved that our squad is too weak, for now lets just grab all the premier league money we can, and slowly build like Everton have, we rushed it.

 

I think it always feel like that after a derby defeat. Takes weeks/months to get out of the system, particularly when it is such a poor showing.

 

luckily we don't get that feeling to many times

 

I'm just hoping and praying that we don't feel as deflated as the end of the 2008/09 season!

 

It's funny that l was having this very same conversation earlier this morning with my GP, would you believe ! He is a Geordie and a Toon supporter also.
What we both fail to be able to understand is how this season has gone so poorly, as compared to the season we were rightly looking forward to, when you consider the position we finished in last time around, and how well we had played as a team.
I guess there is no one particular reason that can be singled out, more a combination of events and issues.
Have to agree that l just want it to end and for us to stay up. It's funny how l will happily settle for scraping through by the skin of our teeth, because l guess l don't feel that we deserve anymore than that right now.

 

Same for me. Would gladly take finishing 17th on goal difference right now.

Get the season out of the way, hope that MA & DL take a long hard look at themselves, the playing squad (the lack of depth in certain areas) and most of all Pardew. I personally want him gone, not just because I don't rate him but because if we get off to a poor start next year pressure is going to be on him after 5 or so games which isn't the way to be starting a new campaign.

 

Hi GLITF. Agree. Looking back, we had so many 'what if' moments, where we simply didn't put games to bed while in good positions. Where somebody (usually Santon) gave away a complete howler, or we (mainly Cisse) missed a sitter, or had a goal ruled offside. At the time, each of those moments was frustrating, but collectively have cost us big time. Whether it's mainly down to confidence and how the players have been managed, or genuinely because we've had so many key players missing due to injury, I don't know. But it just hasn't fallen into place this season.

End of term report = must try harder! Let's just hope we aren't moved down an entire level as a result.

 

I don't think we can hope for any more than scraping through by the skin of our teeth, however I am confident that we will scrape through.

 

But you've only got falsies AB! WE'RE DOOMED!

 

[to be fair ref the west brom game to me it felt like a defeat as we so needed 3 points however a point away there is not that bad

The issue is the points we lost this season puts the pressure on, last week the min we should have been looking for was a point and then looking Back To reading at home that's the issue

I said months ago the damage could be done

Pardew out



QUOTE=Jarramag88;4619783]Was desperate for three points against westbrom because in my opinion that would see us safe and on a personal note for me, could relax and just **** the rest Of the season off. We will be safe I reckon but we are limping over the line.[/QUOTE]

 

I can't bare to go on BBC Sport at the moment, the sight of our league position makes me feel like a turd!

Really do dislike Pardew at the moment, everything about the guy. It's the first time I've been embarrased with our manager, even when Joe Kinnear was in charge I used to feel like atleast he was defending our club from the press! But Pardew it's just like "Oh lord he said what now??" I'm worried that manager of the year award has gone to his head.

 

After years of following the team I find it difficult to celebrate goals with much passion anymore or get too hurt if we lose.

I used to have a joyful feeling whenever we scored when I first started really supporting to the toon, and I used to have a squeeky bum feeling constantly when we were under pressure and a gutting feeling when we conceded.

Now It's just like I'm empty.

I miss the championship years, and I miss the first season up with Hughton, Carroll, Barton and Nolan. I wish those days would come back.

I really hate this **** now.

 

After the amount you spilt dreaming of having Debuchy in the same line-up as Cabaye?

 

I have more or less written this season off as well.

I am virtually sure we are safe as it is (I cannot see Wigan getting 6 points) and expect we'll have another 4 by the end of the season, but there's nothing left. No Europe, no derby, nothing but dragging out the last 4 games and looking forward to next season.

On the other hand, I remember that I didn't feel like this 9 days ago. I don't put too muchstock in it

 

I can, the jammy buggers!

Wigan v Tottenham Sat 27 Apr 15:00
West Brom v Wigan Sat 4 May 15:00
Wigan v Swansea Tue 7 May 19:45
Arsenal v Wigan Tue 14 May 19:45
Wigan v Aston Villa Sun 19 May 16:00

I can only hope that it's down to the last day and only Wigan or Villa can join QPR and Reading (I'm assuming they are both gone). That way I will be happy with the either outcome from that final game.

However, if there is any chance at all that we depend on our our final result and/or that Wigan v Villa match going right for us, then I know what to expect.

 

I don't know - I don't really know what we should be aiming for anymore. We have proven that a Europa League finish is - apparently - nothing more than a catalyst for relegation, and there's less and less chance of getting anywhere near 4th, so what's it about? Is every year going to be a race to 40 points and fingers crossed for the cup? Just seems a little aimless. I think the most underwhelming thing about this season has been the lack of ambition from the board upon actually getting into Europe and the woeful exposure of Pardew as a 2nd rate manager, yet 1st rate bullshtter. It's been quite a giddy sense of underachievement but it's the lack of honesty that has left me coldest. Claims that we were tired after a few extra games in Europe are the main culprit here, which throw up so many questions that remain unanswered;

- We would often play between 3 and 8 different players on a Thursday, were they really that tired?
- Did the abysmal failure in the two domestic competitions not help compensate for the dozen or so extra games we had to play?
- There was no correlation between playing Thursday and failing Sunday; we fcked up just as many games over Xmas.

It doesn't really stack up. There's the great raft of unsolved mysteries that will plague us until Pardew finally leaves - why is Gouffran subbed every match? why is Shola brought on at all? where is Marveaux? where's Coloccini? why is Sissoko playing a role in which he's done well ONCE? why is Cabaye asked to play an offensive role from our own 30 yard line? why was Cisse sacrificed for the first half of the season? why was he out of position? why is Jonas playing at all, let alone left back? why do we have such an endless stream of injuries?

Do you know something - it all seems very similar to the man I consider to be the worst in recent memory...Graeme Souness. He loved **** football, remember he was always about "players win matches, not tactics", remember the endless hamstring injuries we used to get with him in charge? It's that all over again. Even Pardew's start is similar - underwhelming background, replaces man who has essentially done well for the club. Not quite on the same scale, mind, but parity can be drawn. There's one other thing that I find frustratingly similar - tomorrow is always a brighter day with both, and neither accepts what is going on in the here and now. With Pardew, the 1st half of the year it was about Ba's clause, then it was about Europe, then it was about injuries, then it was about the lack of investment. Blame, blame, blame. Into this year he was allowed to bring in 5 players in January, but still the excuses rolled out - Europe again, tiredness, Coloccini's situation, and so on. Yet still the performances have remained almost identical, the set-plays, the substitutions, the bad positioning of his players and so on. How long before Cabaye openly complains about his role in the team? How long before people like Santon, Ben Arfa and Marveaux get plain frustrated with a lack of clear plan. It was Sourmess who said that NUFC were always one or two games away from a crisis, but the problem has been people like him who seek to point the blame out. Were we so perilous under SBR, or KK's first stint? Or has it just been every twot, dick and larry in between has had the same flavour of arrogance that means somehow it's someone else's fault?

We need a change in direction and the only proviso I would make for a new manager is this - humility. But here's the kicker - we have the most arrogant (bar Roman) owner in the league. And so the chance of him admitting he's made a mistake in Pards? None. There is no way this manager is leaving this side of Xmas and even then we'd have to be floundering for him to get the boot. And so comes the apathy we always associate with NUFC - we all see the need for change, but just won't get it. In an ideal world, Pardew would shake it up, move those players around, accept he's made mistakes, sell Shola, or whatever. I'd love the stability, the man seems to care what happens. But as has always been the problem, it's not about caring or standing by your beliefs - it's about being man enough to accept they may be wrong and man enough to do something about yourself, not worry about those around you.

 

Lots of excellent points and very well put.








Bloody hell, now I really am deflated! Beer anyone?

 

Lots of worriers about just now.It's between Villa and Wigan though.