Donny Findlay hits the nail on the head

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Queef Chegwin:4599164 said:
Going back on your word doesn't effect your integrity? Oh I forgot, you're Sevconian.

You know that St Mirren and Ross Cty "gave their word"?

Because... you read it on the internet?

<MINDYFAIL>

Well, I had a meeting with Stewart Gilmour last night and he said that he never gave his word and that Peter Lawell wanted to take a St Mirren youth team training session so he could eye up some of the young boys dungbox's.

How do you want to play this? Throw definitions of "giving your word" around in a Dev/Chapper style argument?


Aberdeen gave a detailed statement of events where the reconstruction plans were unanimously agreed (agreed is a definition of "give your word") in December and plans were put into place costing a lot of money and time to see it through.

So yeah, an unexpected NO vote at the last minute when you had agreed previously would lose you integrity

Unless, of course, you are Sevconian
 
How do you want to play this? Throw definitions of "giving your word" around in a Dev/Chapper style argument?


Aberdeen gave a detailed statement of events where the reconstruction plans were unanimously agreed (agreed is a definition of "give your word") in December and plans were put into place costing a lot of money and time to see it through.

So yeah, an unexpected NO vote at the last minute when you had agreed previously would lose you integrity

Unless, of course, you are Sevconian

Wasn't it well known that St.Mirren were gonna say no and Ross County were in a similiar position.
 
In a word...NO

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on...tion-st-mirren-to-vote-against-plan-1-2881630

Sunday 7 April 2013 00:22

League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertaintly last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.

Ross County have previously suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules.
 
Why? If people aren't happy with the product then don't buy tickets/season tickets.

You don't get a say in the running of Marks & Spencer just because you buy a jumper from them. (XXL)

If you don't like an product in a shop, there are plenty others who do and will buy enough of said product to cover for you not buying it.

If M&S brought out a new sandwich (mmmm...sandwiches), and hardly anyone bought it - would they re-stock it? Keep the Price the same? Would they try to force it on people by saying it's the only choice?

There are not enough fans buying football tickets/going to matches to cover those not attending OR who may now drift away with the same old tat on show.

If Scottish football wants to move forward, they need to take into account the views of the customer ...
 
Wasn't it well known that St.Mirren were gonna say no and Ross County were in a similiar position.

"League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertainty last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.
Ross County have previously
suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules."


AND


11/03/2013
The 12 top-flight clubs met at Hampden on Monday to discuss the new rule book for the proposed three leagues of 12-12-18, which would split into 8-8-8-18 after 22 games.

It will take an 11-1 vote to pass the motion, which will also have to be approved by the Scottish Football League, who have yet to set a date for their vote. Dundee United chairman and SPL board member Stephen Thompson, said: "Everything is positive and moving forward. There is a process in place and we will take it from there."

Asked if he thought reconstruction would be in place for the start of next season, he replied: "That's the plan."

St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour was more cautious as he left Hampden earlier in the day. He said: "We had a good discussion. There was good dialogue and difference of opinion but a long way to go. "I don't know what will happen. The SFL clubs are still to meet and until they come back..."There is a lot of tidying up to be done.

"The biggest thing is, once the SFL clubs meet, I'm sure they all have their own opinions as well so there is a long way to go.

"If you make a decision to change, it is best to happen right away but whether we get to that in time, I don't know." Ross County chairman Roy MacGregor admitted he was concerned with the practicalities of the split.
 
Medro:4599450 said:
In a word...NO

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on...tion-st-mirren-to-vote-against-plan-1-2881630

Sunday 7 April 2013 00:22

League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertaintly last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.

Ross County have previously suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules.

After the previously AGREED in a meeting which saw the beginning of legal work to take reconstruction forward. They made no objections to it going forward but like ALL the other teams, had concerns that ALL agreed there would have to be compromise on.

Ironically it was St Mirren and RC who refused to discuss any compromises

In the meetings that all clubs attended there were no objections to going forward with the plans until the meeting for the official vote.

Saying one thing in a paper and another in a meeting loses you integrity
 
"League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertainty last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.
Ross County have previously
suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules."

AND


11/03/2013
The 12 top-flight clubs met at Hampden on Monday to discuss the new rule book for the proposed three leagues of 12-12-18, which would split into 8-8-8-18 after 22 games.

It will take an 11-1 vote to pass the motion, which will also have to be approved by the Scottish Football League, who have yet to set a date for their vote. Dundee United chairman and SPL board member Stephen Thompson, said: "Everything is positive and moving forward. There is a process in place and we will take it from there."

Asked if he thought reconstruction would be in place for the start of next season, he replied: "That's the plan."

St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour was more cautious as he left Hampden earlier in the day. He said: "We had a good discussion. There was good dialogue and difference of opinion but a long way to go. "I don't know what will happen. The SFL clubs are still to meet and until they come back..."There is a lot of tidying up to be done.

"The biggest thing is, once the SFL clubs meet, I'm sure they all have their own opinions as well so there is a long way to go.

"If you make a decision to change, it is best to happen right away but whether we get to that in time, I don't know." Ross County chairman Roy MacGregor admitted he was concerned with the practicalities of the split.

an unexpected NO vote at the last minute when you had agreed previously

Lovely use of fonts Dev, but was this an unexpected NO vote at the last minute?
 
"League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertainty last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.
Ross County have previously
suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules."


AND


11/03/2013
The 12 top-flight clubs met at Hampden on Monday to discuss the new rule book for the proposed three leagues of 12-12-18, which would split into 8-8-8-18 after 22 games.

It will take an 11-1 vote to pass the motion, which will also have to be approved by the Scottish Football League, who have yet to set a date for their vote. Dundee United chairman and SPL board member Stephen Thompson, said: "Everything is positive and moving forward. There is a process in place and we will take it from there."

Asked if he thought reconstruction would be in place for the start of next season, he replied: "That's the plan."

St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour was more cautious as he left Hampden earlier in the day. He said: "We had a good discussion. There was good dialogue and difference of opinion but a long way to go. "I don't know what will happen. The SFL clubs are still to meet and until they come back..."There is a lot of tidying up to be done.

"The biggest thing is, once the SFL clubs meet, I'm sure they all have their own opinions as well so there is a long way to go.

"If you make a decision to change, it is best to happen right away but whether we get to that in time, I don't know." Ross County chairman Roy MacGregor admitted he was concerned with the practicalities of the split.

<laugh>

Dev in BB code addiction.
 
Medro:4599572 said:
"League reconstruction plans were thrown into uncertainty last night when it emerged that St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour is to vote against the proposed 12-12-18 model.
Ross County have previously
suggested they may vote against the planned reform of the Scottish leagues and if two clubs cast No votes the motion will fail because an 11-1 majority is required under Scottish Premier League rules."

AND


11/03/2013
The 12 top-flight clubs met at Hampden on Monday to discuss the new rule book for the proposed three leagues of 12-12-18, which would split into 8-8-8-18 after 22 games.

It will take an 11-1 vote to pass the motion, which will also have to be approved by the Scottish Football League, who have yet to set a date for their vote. Dundee United chairman and SPL board member Stephen Thompson, said: "Everything is positive and moving forward. There is a process in place and we will take it from there."

Asked if he thought reconstruction would be in place for the start of next season, he replied: "That's the plan."

St Mirren chairman Stewart Gilmour was more cautious as he left Hampden earlier in the day. He said: "We had a good discussion. There was good dialogue and difference of opinion but a long way to go. "I don't know what will happen. The SFL clubs are still to meet and until they come back..."There is a lot of tidying up to be done.

"The biggest thing is, once the SFL clubs meet, I'm sure they all have their own opinions as well so there is a long way to go.

"If you make a decision to change, it is best to happen right away but whether we get to that in time, I don't know." Ross County chairman Roy MacGregor admitted he was concerned with the practicalities of the split.

an unexpected NO vote at the last minute when you had agreed previously

Lovely use of fonts Dev, but was this an unexpected NO vote at the last minute?

Good discussions with concerns....<doh>. The same concerns as when they AGREED....<doh>

<doh>