The Pulis Out/In Debate:

Ann Other.... let's be honest. OUR player's given the chance between them as a squad. Would perform way above our current standard. PULIS simply won't pick the right 11.
Name me 1 team that would be fav's to beat Utd? So, WHY didn't Pulis just go for it, one striker at home and no wingers say's it all.

 

anyone but Pulis

 

Just took this from the Oatcake and it pretty much sums up they way things are -

Gutless, Spineless and Talentless

Such words are ones that can usually be aimed at players who become embroiled in a relegation scrap but in our case, they are all words that can be thrown fairly and squarely at our manager today.

Having used a good few hours after the game to come to terms with the fact that we will almost certainly be relegated and having thought long and hard about our display today, I have to say that our players today gave it everything they had.

To a man, they all tried their very best. Perhaps against their more natural instincts at times, I could see a very real and very distinct pattern of play and approach to the game.

It was a gutless way to set up a team. From the outset, we had 5 of the 10 outfield players out of position. A central midfield player at right back. A right back at left back. A right back cum centre half at right wing. A forward on the left wing. A central midfield player playing as an auxiliary forward.

A team set up to be scared of its own shadow. 5 players out of position and some wonder why we are absolutely toss.

Talentless in the sense that post match, a manager acknowledges the opposition keep the ball to kill the game yet instructs his own players to launch the most aimless punts up field to no-one. A manager who is not talented enough to coach his players to pass, move and be fluid whilst keeping the kind of defensive discipline that a team needs. It is a sorry sight watching a goalkeeper taking free kicks just inside his own half and a centre half who receives the ball, marches 10 yards forward, looks up and launches it to no-one.

Spineless in that when the opposition manager launched a 5 minute tirade against the officials and one of our own players, our gutless, talentless manager just stood there with his hands in his pockets before taking them out to simply fold them across his chest. Where was our manager backing up his players? Getting involved in the fight? Giving his players confidence?

I watched bits of the Sunderland game. Their team played without fear. Their manager has clearly instilled something in them and removed fear from their approach. Meanwhile, I watch on as our team of players give it everything yet are hamstrung by fear, by rigidity, by a system that allows absolutely no freedom of expression.

Tony Pulis is a gutless, spineless and talentless manager who has totally lost his way. As predicted, he seemed content to see us keep our goal difference in some kind of tact like that will be the thing that saves us. We made absolutely no attempt to win the game today. We made no attempt to cause them problems. We made no attempt to give them a bloody nose.

Once again, we rolled over and had our bellies tickled by a team managed by old whisky nose, a bloke who Pulis openly admits to revering. So much so, that a bloke that will headbutt a member of his own team, won't even stand up to an opposition manager who is openly abusing one of his own players.

I am gutted. This team has relegation written all over it and if I wasn't at the end of my tether, watching Michael Owen wander around on the right wing, then the left wing has left me totally disillusioned.

"Forget what has gone on before" he said after the game yet come the middle of the week, he will be urging us to "remember where we've come from".

A walking contradiction and a gutless, spineless talentless manager. He urges us to "pull in the same direction" and to be "together" yet it is him that is seemingly pulling in his own direction and he doesn't seem to be taking anyone other than the "lively and inventive" Dave "Yes Tony" Kemp with him.

Time to go!

 

I posted on here a few weeks ago slating you lot for calling for Pulis' head. But having seen your performances since I have to admit you are truly dreadful and I was wrong. I genuinely thought it was much a do about nothing and that you would stay up comfortably... but obviously it is now time for a change. As we've seen at Sunderland it can make a huge difference, and whilst I still think some of you have been pretty rash in your criticism of Pulis given all he's done, it does feel a start to a new era is required and that teams are now completely wise to your style of play.

Obviously We're playing you next, and whilst we're clearly relegated already, I still think it will be a QPR win as your guys confidence must be so low and you've never travelled well in the Premier League.

You dont need me to tell you that youre in seriously deep trouble, and that the next games whether they are with Pulis or not are crucial... O'Neil, Di Matteo or Curbishley might be your best options, but there isnt a lot out there.

Again Apologies.

Come on U R'sss

Initial Post

http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/201005-Most-deluded-fans-in-the-Country?p=4420115#post4420115

 

I can't complain too much about Shotton yesterday, no Ehters and Kightly not cutting it.
Could have been a different game had either Owen or Jerome been upfront, instead of Whelan in midfield. Jones won nearly every ball we hoofed up to him, but other than him, there was no movement up there. All game I was thinking we were screaming out for someone like Owen, and being against United, I thought he'd have been given more than the customary 10 minutes. Why not just start him? Even if he does break down, given TP's selection methods, he's not gonna get used again anyway, so it'd be no big loss.

 

WOW ,

So good i had to include it again

A Pity its so accurate

 

No worries mate and good luck at the weekend.

 

What for?
I can't see the O.Ps words Smithers

 

Me neither

 

I posted on here a few weeks ago slating you guys for calling for Pulis' head, however having seen your performances since i have to admit that you are truly dreadful and that I was wrong , It is now time for a change... I genuinely thought that it was much a do about nothing and that you in the end you would stay up comfortably, but that's clearly not the case. Even though I still feel some of you have been very rash in your criticism towards Pulis given all he's done, he's reached his sell-by date

Obviously we play you this week and whilst we are already relegated, I still think it will be a QPR win as your players confidence looks shot, and you've never really travelled well in the Premier League...


You don't need me to tell you that the next few games are critical to your clubs future, whether they're with Pulis or not.. But I get the impression that's its definatley an end of an era scenario and that a change is needed quickly, as we've seen with Sunderland, a fresh approach can make a huge difference.. O'Neil, Di Matteo and Curbishley are probably your best options but there isn't a lot out there right now.


Again apologies

 

Herlja
Cheers mate good honest post..
AS they say "The fat lady's not singing just yet" but she is clearing her throat, and I personally fear the worst. ONE win away in God knows how long and Pulis expects us to get SIX Pts? I assume he means we beat Norwich and Spurs that's OK then if you believe in miricles.

I won't be at the game this weekend, I gave up on Pulis awayday tactics last season Herlja. GO FOR it and you never know. SIT back and HOLD ON never worked and it's not worked for Clueliss. I would like a change NOW not end of season, by which time I might be too little too late. A new guy in now? what's to lose we can't play any worse than we are right now so....

MON no thanks any of the other 2 would be fine by me.. Unlike Pulis they can both coach and know how to treat/handle player's. Tuncay? Kitson? Gudjonsson? Pennant? the list is endless. ALL good player's who have come and gone under Pulis. Whatever happens now it happens for a reason.

Either way Good luck next season Herlja wherever you are playing..

 

thanks for your concern.


Do you think that your team will go into administration following your relegation ?
Will you be able to hold onto Samba on £100,000 per week ?
Will Harry leave ?
Can a side with a small folllowing like yourselves really survive in the Premier league once wage caps are introduced ?

WE are just as concerned about your future as you so obviously are with ours look forward to seeing you again

 

Agreed, it can't get any worse so there's no risk on making the change now. Shame for you guys Di Canios been taken... Wigan and Villa have pretty tricky run in's so it's not over yet but, going for it at Loftus is probably the way forward, but don't think your players know how to go all out attack... But if you did, our awful defence would give way and you'd score a few...we'll have to wait and see.

 

Well
We COULD go all out and I think we may as well mate. ONE problem Pulis will Not.. therein lies OUR problem. We do have the player's but as I said before he never plays 2 wingers and 2 up front at home maybe, away he's clueless.

 

Unnecessary sarcasim, but firstly Samba isn't on 100k and can easily be sold, same goes for Remy, so no risk was really taken when signing them...I highly doubt we'll go into administration given we have the richest guy in the country behind us... could end up being a blessing in disguise as its all a mess.

 

what about harry ?


what about the wage/income issue. presumably fernandes will sponsor the club like citeh are doing or like bet365 are going to do with us.

didn't mean 4 it to be quite as sarcastic as it came across, rushed last sentence because interrupted , sorry.

 

Herl was previously critical of our negativity to TP.

 

Harry seems happy to stay, not many better jobs available that he would want considering he wants to be able to commute from the south coast most days...

wages are the issues, terrible players like Boswinga SWP Johnson Green etc will no doubt stick around as we apparently didnt put relegation clauses in their deals, unbelievable from a club that survived by a point last year.

Cant help but think there are many loop holes, i.e renaming the stadium etc to solve the income problems though...lets face it, we'll probably try and keep Park on the books for shirt sales alone.

 

correct, I'd like to point you in the direction of my other article smithers, which is under the same title as this one for my full apology/understanding of the situation

 

It was a gutless way to set up a team. From the outset, we had 5 of the 10 outfield players out of position. A central midfield player at right back. A right back at left back. A right back cum centre half at right wing. A forward on the left wing. A central midfield player playing as an auxiliary forward.

And an arsehole conducting proceedings!!