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It's disapproved of because whilst you obviously have a degree of control over your players, your fate is also largely decided by the whims of the AI. And the AI is absolutely woeful at protecting against so called 'tramp/sweaty/dirty' goals. They can be within 2 yards of an attacking player making a run square of the attacking player of the ball but completely refuse to acknowledge their existence and allow them to become completely open. Thus the player on the ball can suck the keeper and defenders in towards them and then knock a simple square pass to an unmarked player to knock into an almost empty net. Personally I will almost always control the central player and use computer press on the player on the ball whilst I cover the 'tramp' player.

If I'm in a good goalscoring position or one-on-one then I won't lay it off, but I don't begrudge anyone who passes it square. Anyone who purposefully abuses the game mechanics specifically to try and score goals like that I'm not so fond of but it doesn't particularly bother me. Each to their own.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Would they get angry in a real game as well if a player passed to a team mate to score? You should only get angry at yourself...the opposition can do what they like within the rules. I should keep out of these discussions as i obviously do not appreciate how important this is:smile:
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The internet and especially FIFA is serious business. <laugh>
 
Mikey said:
It's disapproved of because whilst you obviously have a degree of control over your players, your fate is also largely decided by the whims of the AI. And the AI is absolutely woeful at protecting against so called 'tramp/sweaty/dirty' goals. They can be within 2 yards of an attacking player making a run square of the attacking player of the ball but completely refuse to acknowledge their existence and allow them to become completely open. Thus the player on the ball can suck the keeper and defenders in towards them and then knock a simple square pass to an unmarked player to knock into an almost empty net. Personally I will almost always control the central player and use computer press on the player on the ball whilst I cover the 'tramp' player.

If I'm in a good goalscoring position or one-on-one then I won't lay it off, but I don't begrudge anyone who passes it square. Anyone who purposefully abuses the game mechanics specifically to try and score goals like that I'm not so fond of but it doesn't particularly bother me. Each to their own.
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That's what everyone should always do while defending. No point mindlessly sprinting towards the player on the ball when you can get the AI to do that for you.

Frankly, I don't care either way because if I defended well, they wouldn't be in that position. If someone had some glitchy failproof tactic of genuinely taking advantage of programming mistakes, like some freak corner combination that is literally impossible to defend, I'd have a problem because that's unfair, but squaring when through on goal? Eh, worse things happen.
 
Mr. Nice said:
That's what everyone should always do while defending. No point mindlessly sprinting towards the player on the ball when you can get the AI to do that for you.

Frankly, I don't care either way because if I defended well, they wouldn't be in that position. If someone had some glitchy failproof tactic of genuinely taking advantage of programming mistakes, like some freak corner combination that is literally impossible to defend, I'd have a problem because that's unfair, but squaring when through on goal? Eh, worse things happen.
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There is :p
 
Mr. Nice said:
That's what everyone should always do while defending. No point mindlessly sprinting towards the player on the ball when you can get the AI to do that for you.

Frankly, I don't care either way because if I defended well, they wouldn't be in that position. If someone had some glitchy failproof tactic of genuinely taking advantage of programming mistakes, like some freak corner combination that is literally impossible to defend, I'd have a problem because that's unfair, but squaring when through on goal? Eh, worse things happen.
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Indeed but I always vary my play because falling into rhythms is the easiest way to let an opponent settle against you.

It just comes down to play-styles and what you want to achieve by playing the game. Some people just want to seek the lowest common denominator method of winning games because that's all they want to do, other people just want to do skills, others will try and score goals from 30 yards out. Personally I couldn't give a toss, I have my way of playing and my opponent has theirs, if anything I enjoy playing against people who play in 'sweaty' manners because a lot of the joy I get from Fifa is from sussing out opponents, out-thinking them and then adapting mid-game to defeat them, if everyone played the same way the game would just be repetitive.

A lot of the people who complain about tramp goals are the same people who complain about scripting, momentum, crosses etc., people will always find something to complain about or an excuse for them losing.
 
Least the gk's don't run out all the time like the last FIFA, oh look he's randomly running out that's just chip him.
 
Back when Pro Evo was good, like 5 years ago or so, those were the only games that got AI defending right.
 
I only score sweaty goals if I'm losing, passing it across pretty much guarentees a goal, doesn't seem fair to score every time you attack.
 
A really stunning girl walked into my store today, her looks were instantly wasted when her mouth opened and said " I is afta one of dem phone tings u get me" I pointed to what I thought she wanted and she then said " ye bruv dats it u goin to hook me up init yeye". :(
 
Joe Steinberg said:
Back when Pro Evo was good, like 5 years ago or so, those were the only games that got AI defending right.
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I was going to say. I think the last football game I played was ProEvo 2005 or 06, [which I loved, but I wasn't seeing daylight or friends] and the defending seemed pretty good then. There was nobody to pass to in any case. But then again, as Micky Channon once answered... Ossie, when I see the whites of those goalposts, I ain't passing it..!

Which maybe a tad silly as I'm actually passing it to myself. But it gave me the chance to bring two of my Saint heroes into the conversation.

Thanks for the Tramp/Sweaty explanation. I was going to ask what Sweaty meant [not another River Test Question**, StG], as well.

**As of now I'm inventing a new phrase which is the River Test Question [RTQ], which means an obvious, but vague question in the context of the current conversation, that a pedantic bleeder decides to mock. We'll see if it lives. It should do, I can be as pedantic as anyone here and there are plenty of us. :)
 
I never got into CoD or Halo. My childhood gaming consisted of online sim racing. The only shoot-em-ups I ever enjoyed were WarRock, which was a free game and a hell of a lot of fun until people started hacking the maps, and then Team Fortress 2. TF2 is quite possibly the best multiplayer game in history, so much fun.
 
SFCJordi said:
Halo and CoD also have generally terrible communities. CoD moreso, which is why I teamkill.
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Only good thing on CoD is the team killing, to many crazy little kids play it to actually have fun.
 
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