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Somebody Sandbagging???

  • Sebastian Vettel - A Master on His Bull, Unstoppable Again?

    Votes: 14 35.0%

  • Mark Webber - Same Machinery Though Time is Running Out

    Votes: 1 2.5%

  • Jenson Button - Likes it Round Albert Park

    Votes: 7 17.5%

  • Sergio Perez - Serious Contender

    Votes: 2 5.0%

  • Fernando Alonso - 4th Time Lucky?

    Votes: 7 17.5%

  • Felipe Massa - Getting Back to 2008 Spec?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kimi Raikkonen - I like Sleeping

    Votes: 2 5.0%

  • Romain Grosjean - I Didn't See Him I Promise

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nico Rosberg - About to be Destroyed?

    Votes: 1 2.5%

  • Lewis Hamilton - A new Start?

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Nico Hulkenberg - Remember Brazil Last Year?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Esteban Gutierrez - An Apt Replacement for Kamui?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Paul Di Resta - (Beat Vettel) Remember That.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Adrian Sutil - (GBH)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Pastor Maldonado - (Changed His Ways?)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
More analysis from Borat

Test Analysis top speeds
fast Ferrari, Red Bull slowly

We have analyzed the last two days of testing in Barcelona based on speed measurements, sector data and lap times. In Part 1 of our detailed test analysis, we highlight the top speeds. Since Ferrari is nine km / h ahead of Red Bull's fastest car on the straight but was a Marussia.

On the straight no races are won. If it were, Red Bull had not once allowed to become world champion. The cars of Adrian Newey were in the last three years continuously in the top-speed measurements in the rear box. The Red Bull-makers give you the supposedly weak- Renault engine fault. What nonsense. Lotus and Williams would have to also be at the back. Lotus was just last year when the top-speed measurements several times at the top. With the same engine. And they are now again much faster.

Red Bull Last in the top speed rating
Red Bull is slow for other reasons on the line. Newey presents his car at like sharply, the one hand, the output, on the other hand, however, also increases the air resistance. Also translated the master of drawing board just like the gear. Drivability in curves brings more lap time than the highest speed on the straight. Three world titles give Newey law.

To the golden rule that Red Bull is on the straight end of the table, nothing has changed. "We are again back to it," said an annoyed team advisor Helmut Marko. The world champion troops landed with 307.7 km / h in last place. Driven by Mark Webber on Saturday. Vettel even came only 306.8 km / h

The list surprisingly leads to a Marussia. You could at the 320.5 km / h from Jules Bianchi on Saturday talking about a particular case, but the new man on the team was the Russians on Sunday h with 313.0 km / relatively quickly on your way. Presumably, he has benefited from his record from the slipstream.

Ferrari clearly improved
Since the 316.7 km / h from Fernando Alonso, are Nico Hulkenberg , Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta has more ostentatious. Ferrari amazed at the top speed. The red cars were last year, yet the worm on the line. The old F2012 was like a barn door in the wind. The fact that the new Ferrari is fast both on the line and a round of shows, how much better off the new F138 than its predecessor.

Sauber C32 at the top speed values ​​are also due to the narrow side pods. They provide much less drag. The Force India VJM06 may look unremarkable, but he also has relatively slim sidepods and so little face. It was the only team that came on both days at the same speed.

Caterham escaped the measurements
McLaren, Mercedes and Lotus in the middle range. The difference between Lewis Hamilton with 314.9 km / h and Nico Rosberg with 312.1 km / h can be related to the slipstream. The same applies to Jenson Button (315.8 km / h) and Sergio Perez (314.0 km / h). Williams and Toro Rosso place before Red Bull at the bottom of the table.

All three, however, were in the last days of testing on the road and came with neat gasoline consequently been slow out of the final corner. You already on the finish line a deficit between nine and twelve km / h top speed kings. This reproduces. Only one team did not appear on the measured values. Caterham eluded analysis, probably because the transponder was not right.

1. Marussia - Bianchi - 320.5 km/h
2. Ferrari - Alonso - 316.7 km/h
2. Sauber - Hülkenberg - 316.7 km/h
2. Force India - Sutil/Di Resta - 316.7 km/h
5. McLaren - Button - 315.8 km/h
6. Lotus - Räikkönen - 314.9 km/h
6. Mercedes - Hamilton - 314.9 km/h
8. Toro Rosso - Vergne - 311.2 km/h
8. Williams - Maldonado - 311.2 km/h
10. Red Bull - Webber - 307.7 km/h

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...ferrari-schnell-red-bull-langsam-6742329.html
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AMuS have been praising the Ferrari a lot this year. In the past they've taken every possible opportunity to bash Ferrari, so maybe this is Alonso's year. Also they've been quite negative about the Red Bull surprisingly.
 
A lot of people saying the Red Bull is not that quick. It just seems mad to me. It seems like they have missed something and not thinking they were sandbagging (which seems pretty obvious to me).

Or am I wrong?
 
El_Bando said:
A lot of people saying the Red Bull is not that quick. It just seems mad to me. It seems like they have missed something and not thinking they were sandbagging (which seems pretty obvious to me).

Or am I wrong?
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The RB9 will require the DRD I reckon for a fully working car, then the form will Skyrocket again and the FIA won't be able to ban it.
 
allsaintchris. said:
Ferrari have not been shy in ditching drivers for being outspoken or not trying hard enough. Alonso is banking on that he is too valuable to Ferrari for them to show him the door at this moment.

The Old Man certainly would not be taking this crap from him.
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So did Prost, and that didn't do him many favours. Wasn't he sacked for calling the car sh*t?
 
At the moment Alonso has Ferrari's future in his hands to a degree, they need him to get them back to the top. Only downside for him though is that the second they becoming the team to beat Massa won't be needed anymore as they will want to sustain that run like RBR have had. In that case then Ferrari can dictate to Alonso and bring in whoever they want as the car will be viewed the best and it will most likely be Seb unless Mercedes are the team to beat 2014 onwards. If Alonso doesn't like it I reckon Ferrari will wave him goodbye as Seb would have enough experience to "run" a team since he will have 8 years of experience at that time.

A Seb/Bianchi lineup in 2015 wouldn't sound too bad to the Tifosi considering they would in theory be the best team on the grid if Seb is tempted enough to leave RBR, though I'm sure a Seb/Alonso lineup is much more tempting to keep them at the top until Alonso retires.
 
EternalMSC said:
Amazing how nobody has voted Webber, surprised more that Miggins hasn't.
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<laugh> Actually, I've thought about it: if Doktor Marko is to be believed, this will be Mark's last year in the top car; could be quite an incentive.

C'mon Miggins, you know you want to! :wink:
 
Ferrari said:
Domenicali: “Melbourne is just the start”

Maranello, 6 March – Anticipation is growing ahead of the start of the 2013 World Championship – and expectations about Scuderia Ferrari’s performance are growing too. That is only natural after a month of encouraging tests and the calmness displayed by the two big players, Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, who will return to action in the F138 at Melbourne’s Albert Park in little over a week. We will have to wait until March 16, the day of qualifying, to be able to make the first real evaluations of the performances of the cars. Given the stability of the technical regulations this year, predictions have rarely been such a futile and casual exercise.

But if you apply a certain logic, which goes beyond the excitement and the hopes generated by the start of every new season, it’s hard to imagine that the teams who were competitive last year won’t be up there this year too. Asked about the beginning of the season, Scuderia Ferrari’s Team Principal Stefano Domenicali said: “To think of drawing conclusions after the first qualifying session in Australia would be premature because it represents only the beginning of a long voyage that ends in November. For many reasons, however, it can be considered an important test bench to establish the state of play. I expect that the teams who finished in the top positions in Sao Paulo will repeat that in Melbourne, probably with a reduced advantage – that’s what we are all hoping for, anyway. What are the factors that have convinced me that Ferrari has made a step forward? The new business structure, the working methods, the modifications to the equipment that we have used to work on this car, the consistency of the results compared with our targets and what we saw in the recent tests – these all seem to tell us that we are on the right path at last compared to the past. So, to make an analysis that is purely centred on ourselves, unless someone else has done an exceptional job I’m convinced that Ferrari will be in the battle to the end. A podium in Australia would be a good base on which to build the kind of successes we need. What’s more, apart from the actual performance of the car, our work in the wind tunnel is an element that gives us faith in the area of aerodynamics, where 90% of the performance comes from, so we can work with a certain calmness. The stability of the rules is another guarantee that there won’t be surprises with any exceptional creative solutions that make a big difference, and I’m especially confident given the changes we made last year.”

As for the competition during the year, Domenicali added: “I’m sure that over the course of the season the competition will reduce because the demands on all the teams for the 2014 project cannot be underestimated. We are talking about a car that is completely different to what we’ve seen before and there’s a risk of missing the boat: the smaller the organisation, the greater and the earlier the resources they will have to invest in the new project. Meanwhile for the big teams, the exercise will be to balance the resources required to keep up the development to be competitive right to the end with the attention that needs to be dedicated to 2014 to avoid the risk of being left behind.”
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