Out of Nani and Arbeloa, only one of them could see the collision coming, and he chose to run into Nani's foot, potentially endangering himself. With Nani in the air he could have easily won the ball off him, but he chose to run into him, we all know what Arbeloa was thinking.
Nani went to control the ball and not challenge the player so not serious violent play. The Real player challenged Nani's attempt to bring the ball under control and there was a collision. Thats not under dispute. But Nani never knew where the lad was so it difficult for the ref to claim serious foul play or violent conduct which are two of the seven offences which FIFA deem punishable by a red card. The keepers challenge however was a possible red. He saw Vidic heading the ball and jumped up with the clear intention of punching the ball but punched on him the head requiring the Utd keeper to have treatment. Red card. Don't care about Keane. He's only seeking to keep his job on ITV and be controversial like Eamon Dunphy on RTE. You say white, Roy will say black and so on. Also if I had been playing last night I would have not shaken the ref's hand. Utd players have a right to be pissed of because of a total and utter cock up. Personally don't give a damn that fans from other clubs think that's wrong, 'cause nothing to do with them.
Nani was looking over his shoulder when he originally lifted his foot to control the dropping ball that bit is ok, but if you watch the replay as he turns his head he can see the player and had plenty of time to withdraw his leg and avoid studding him, but instead it actually looks like he drove his foot forward into him. Deserved red and Roy Keane's assessment was absolutely correct although delivered in his usual arrogant confrontational manner.
I believe that the vast majority of the rules of football are open to interpretation by the referee.If the referee interpreted Nani's play as dangerous or reckless then he was right to issue a red card.
Its clear he did but to anyone with common sense it was not. Besides if it is a red card then why not this one in the same match? please log in to view this image
It has nothing to do with what anyone else thinks.Personally i thought the red was harsh but that is my opininion.It's the referee's opininion that counts and he thought it was a worthy of a red.Whatever we as football think the referee made the correct decision because that is how he saw the incident.
A great day when Utd get it up them. They ****ing hate it, even though it happens to everyone else all the time.
Are we back to the "United get all the decisions" thing already? I thought we would at least get to cheat a win against your lot in the cup before that old chestnut came up again.
Completely agree with you. Not much point arguing the toss - the ref made his decision, **** happens. Tho' I wonder if you'll be so sanguine if the ref views another Vidic handball in the area as accidental when we play you in April?
It is the ref's opinion that counts but you've got to admit his decision changed the game completely. He made a decision which and I'm trying not to be bias here, which was totally and utterly wrong yet allowed the keeper to stay on the pitch despite punching an Utd player to the face. Which of the two were the most dangerous?
The keeper going up in a melee of players to punch a ball probably looks a little different, in terms of who is most vulnerable, than the very fast moving image of what looked to be someone going chest high with his studs up one on one.
Yes I garee. **** happens. and there was no knowing whether even without Nani beng sent off Real's pressure wouldn't have paid off. IF they had scored a goal, then United would have been under pressure. Just need to focus on the premiership and the FA cup. A double would not be too bad!
So its all right for a keeper who sees a rival player going for the ball and decides to punch it clear only to miss and connect fully with his head but it's totally wrong and a sending off offence for a player not knowing till the very last split second where an opponent player is when he's trying to control the ball and not challenge anyone? Look again at both incidents and tell me which is the most dangerous to both players. One to the head and one to just below his armpit. please log in to view this image
I was referring to the refs view in real time, not your ability to post a montage of images that suit your argument.
Yeah cause I searched the internet looking for just the right images to show how the keeper may have punched Vidic and thus might have breached FIFA law 12. You caught me out lad.
