Jus wondering how likely this horse is to head to the supreme and does it not represent great value at 16s going on the bare form of it's 4 length win over my tent or yours?
Wouldn't take that form too literally and Henderson has stated he probably will give Cheltenham a miss. Betfair strongly seems to suggest that he won't turn up either.
Don't want to sound like a tosser but do you think the Henderson yard would have allowed the horse to be 16/1 for the Supreme if they thought that run against MTOY was an accurate representation of their respective abilities? If it is would they allow it to be 16/1 if he's an intended runner in the Supreme?
Henderson has stated that Chatterbox will not be going to Cheltenham. That said, he also said Binocular was out for the season three weeks before winning the Champion Hurdle.
Put this up last week and got similar responses. Has done nothing but impress me and if it runs I will be having a punt. The form of his win over MTOY was impressive after the subsequent exploits of the latter. I believe he is 20/1 in places.
Drever, the form of his run against MTOY is only decent if you use MTOY as the yardstick! Check out the third. Also check out his next race, Lac Fontana was going to frank the form....HE DIDN'T. MTOY was dare I say it blatantly being laid out for a handicap the day Chatterbox beat him. If they raced again tomorrow MTOY would give him a real stuffing IMHO. Regardless of what we think of his form he is considered by Hendo to be too immature for the Festival this year and will miss it for Aintree!
That is your opinion Stick and I respect that. You are right regarding Lac Fontana letting the form down at the weekend but he still beat him well conceding so much weight. I just feel that if Chatterbox turns up I would rather back him eway at 20/1 than MTOY to win at 2/1. Obviously the Henderson second string won't win... Oh wait, 2009 Champion Hurdle anyone?!
If chatterbox turns up he won't be 20/1. And remember the ground was desperate that day as well. Will be completely different at cheltenham.
Directly after Chatterbox's last run, in the winners enclosure NH stated that in his opinion, it would be risky to run the horse in a race like the Supreme, due to his immaturity. That he was a horse for next year, although Aintree may be a possibility. I too liked the way he ran and won, but the Hendo opinion was off the cuff, and rang true to me
Cheers lads, new to the forum and u's have a great knowledge. Im just lookin alternatives to MTOY - headin to the festival on the tuesday and would like to get off to a good start for once!! have been stung in the past by the dunguibs and cousin vinnys - tho the year i dont back the hotpot he will invariably win!! Had fancied jezki until MTOY demolished the field LTO and waheeb didnt exactly frank the form 2day! Think dodging bullets represents solid EW claims but his price is getting short enough now-and for some reason i keep thinkin champagne fever is the dark horse at 16s as last years bumper winner (jezki 6th i think) Maybe its just all too obvious and MTOY will lead them all a merry dance!!
Good luck at Cheltenham Hurricane. To precis this little thread I would say to hold fire if you are thinking about Chatterbox. I personally will be amazed if he turns up, if he does he will be a decent Ew bet at probably around 10-1. He is a nice horse but I think Hendo is right to miss Cheltenham this year. All the best and welcome to the best forum in racing ;-)
I really like DODGING BULLETS Drever. I think he has shown a very good level of form and I certainly dont think we have seen the best of him. I think the Triumph came a little too soon in his career and we will see a better animal at this years Festival. MY TENT OR YOURS looked scarily good in winning that very competitive handicap though and it wasnt like he was getting lumps of weight either. Cotton Mill would have gone very close last year and MTOY gave him weight and a beating! Dark Lover didnt do the form any harm in the National Spirit either over what I feel was a trip slightly too far. Almost everyone on here seems to want to oppose MTOY but for a novice to win a decent handicap in that fashion was exceptional.
MTOY handicap win was very impressive but I always look to oppose the fav in this race as their record is poor. Dodging Bullets is an odd one for me being a second season novice. I just feel he lacks that 'X Factor' to be honest.
I'm no stickler, but i really like melodic rendezvous for the race. Done everything right this year and has improved every race. The trainer thinks the ground will be fine for him, and has said the beast will be ridden more prominently than the usual hold up tactics. So i can definitely see it being bang there near the end of the race. I also like Un Atout, On at a big price after i think galaxy and topclass put it up a while ago. I'm definitely against Jetski. And was even before MTOY was promoted to favoritism. Good luck whoever you choose.
Thats what im thinking myself stick - everything seems to be pointing to MTOY - should we really be lookin elsewhere?! Un atout really is a dark horse and could be anything - 2 bloodless victories but against what???
Hawkeye, I like Melodic Rendezvous too. He destroyed Puffin Billy although it is a FACT that Billy was lame after. Oliver Sherwood was full of praise for the Scott horse saying that they possibly wouldnt have beaten him anyway. I think that the novice hurdlers are one of the best bunch we have seen collectively for some time. The Supreme and The Neptune are both hugely classy looking events this year and dont even get me started on AT FISHERS CROSS. I will be very surprised if any of the novice hurdles are won by any distance this year.
