Redknapp: Outing the Doubters
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There's a thread running on the Chelsea Board at the moment which proposes that 'Arry is a better Manager than Rafa. To my surprise some Chelsea fans agree but its got the Scouse minions in a right old tizzy.
They look on Coco as God himself!
They look on Coco as God himself!
yes, fair point. let me just add, 'in the top flight' to the end of that sentence.
On the OP, Harry is the right man for the situation we're in. He as the knack of getting the best out of players and his teams always play entertaining football which will please the true R's fans. I'm under no illusions that this is almost mission impossible, 34 points minimum from 26 games is a big ask from a position of weakness, but he will play the January window as astutely as ever and some shrewd loan deals could produce a very different looking team by the end of January.
As I've said elsewhere, even if we do go down I think Harry would be the right man to bring us straight back up. In the end the key period of our season is the next six weeks where he has to work with what we've got, and, more importantly, what we haven't got...
As I've said elsewhere, even if we do go down I think Harry would be the right man to bring us straight back up. In the end the key period of our season is the next six weeks where he has to work with what we've got, and, more importantly, what we haven't got...
I am delighted with the appointment, but I think it is mainly a short term solution. The rest of this season and the next, no more. He will get them believing in themselves and working hard on the pitch sorting out those who are not. I hope he doesn't make the same mistake as MH and buy too many players in the window. A striker (or two) and a CB would be enough.
I was really annoyed with the FA for not giving him the England job (Woy Hodgson?), so he'll be good enough for us.
I was really annoyed with the FA for not giving him the England job (Woy Hodgson?), so he'll be good enough for us.
Funny this, My girlfriend and all here family are Sf holders for Saints, they and all there friends hated the thought of Harry coming back. I also work in Southampton and seems the common consensus to the people I have spoken to.
Southampton were financially going down the pan at that time and Harry was working with constraints. The fact he was at Portsmouth was never going to make him popular there so there's a certan amount of previous that colours the fans animosity...
Jurgen Klinsmann ...
Wished there wouldn't be so much moaning and negative discussions without having not a single alternative. Give him a fair change and stand behind the team and the club. MH is far away, and things can only go better IMO.
You may find Harry shafting you a second time when we go up the table, and pass you going the other way!
Ok....you've got me biting this time!
You do talk some twaddle at times swords. It was NEVER "****ing dreadful". Effective? Yes! Hard-working at times? Yes! But I remember some great football being played along with the scrapping that is inevitably needed to get out of that league. Taarabt obviously was the star, but Routeledge was very good, as was Faurlin. I remember some very good one-touch football mixed in with the grit and fight. Christ, we could do with some of that now. To say it was diabolical and dreadful is so over the top imo.
Back to the OP.....Harry has said that there won't be any "big spend up" in January or the summer, which puts to bed one of the main fears I've been reading on here concerning him.
Seems the vast majority are delighted with this appointment, and who am I to argue? As I said above he'll get my support as QPR manager, the most important thing is the club.
Out of interest what do you think he should achieve in the run up to the transfer window? Sunderland, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Newcastle, West Brom, Liverpool, 4 at home. What does good look like from this potential 21 points? Should we be out of the bottom 3 by January 1st 2013? After today this is perhaps the easiest run of games for the rest of the season, West Brom highest amongst them.
If the problem with our team is mainly motivation (as well as defence and attack of course) and Harry's chief asset according to many on here is 'man management' I would expect to be out of the bottom 3 by New Years Day, with 10 to 12 points from these games.
According to the Times we are paying him the same as Hughes £3 m a year for a 3 year contract, plus a £1 m bonus if we stay up. I expect some pretty clear performance targets have been set.
Anyone notice that he always refers to his teams as 'them/they' rather than 'us/we'?
Out of interest what do you think he should achieve in the run up to the transfer window? Sunderland, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Newcastle, West Brom, Liverpool, 4 at home. What does good look like from this potential 21 points? Should we be out of the bottom 3 by January 1st 2013? After today this is perhaps the easiest run of games for the rest of the season, West Brom highest amongst them.
If the problem with our team is mainly motivation (as well as defence and attack of course) and Harry's chief asset according to many on here is 'man management' I would expect to be out of the bottom 3 by New Years Day, with 10 to 12 points from these games.
According to the Times we are paying him the same as Hughes £3 m a year for a 3 year contract, plus a £1 m bonus if we stay up. I expect some pretty clear performance targets have been set.
Anyone notice that he always refers to his teams as 'them/they' rather than 'us/we'?
. I said same.
I reckon I’m pretty much onside with my old mate SB on this which will not come as a major surprise to long term readers of this forum. While I have no doubt that Redknapp’s main priority will be lining his own pockets I equally have no doubt that, in the process, he will do a good job for us. Even though our need for the later outweighs my aversion to the former it still grates.
I’m wary that Redknapp has nothing to prove at a club the size of ours and we are possibly just topping up his pension before he retires, but I do think that he will not only organise and motivate the players, but also galvanise the crowd. The atmosphere in our match against Southampton was almost one of resignation before a ball was kicked with me being as culpable as anyone, I never want to experience that again.
I also fear that our long term plans may get kicked into touch. Redknapp will not want the club to be distracted by anything that will not benefit the team while he is at the club. We all want a good youth structure, will Redknapp care about that? We need a proper transfer policy that will not only help the team improve but also help to generate future income, will Redknapp care about this? There should be a long term strategy for the club’s growth, will Redknapp care about that? Tony Fernandes has neither the time or expertise for these. Can Philip Beard organise these? I’m not convinced that this is his speciality, so should we also appoint a long term Director of Football to ensure we can build on what hopefully Redknapp will create? We desperately need to build a structure around the manager to ensure that certain elements of the long term planning continue outside of his sphere of influence.
That said he is a larger than life character that could just be a perfect fit. I’ve always believed that QPR is a character based club, to quote from my blog “a club whose glory is encapsulated by the passionate characters associated with it not simply recorded by trophies won.” I sincerely hope that Harry can build his own niche in our history.
I’m wary that Redknapp has nothing to prove at a club the size of ours and we are possibly just topping up his pension before he retires, but I do think that he will not only organise and motivate the players, but also galvanise the crowd. The atmosphere in our match against Southampton was almost one of resignation before a ball was kicked with me being as culpable as anyone, I never want to experience that again.
I also fear that our long term plans may get kicked into touch. Redknapp will not want the club to be distracted by anything that will not benefit the team while he is at the club. We all want a good youth structure, will Redknapp care about that? We need a proper transfer policy that will not only help the team improve but also help to generate future income, will Redknapp care about this? There should be a long term strategy for the club’s growth, will Redknapp care about that? Tony Fernandes has neither the time or expertise for these. Can Philip Beard organise these? I’m not convinced that this is his speciality, so should we also appoint a long term Director of Football to ensure we can build on what hopefully Redknapp will create? We desperately need to build a structure around the manager to ensure that certain elements of the long term planning continue outside of his sphere of influence.
That said he is a larger than life character that could just be a perfect fit. I’ve always believed that QPR is a character based club, to quote from my blog “a club whose glory is encapsulated by the passionate characters associated with it not simply recorded by trophies won.” I sincerely hope that Harry can build his own niche in our history.
Wotcha Roller!
Hope you come back regularly mate. All the flaming has been tidied up by the Mods. I think you'll find it a happier place to post.
Hope you come back regularly mate. All the flaming has been tidied up by the Mods. I think you'll find it a happier place to post.
Roller, delighted to see you post, a rare and rich pleasure. And not only because you share some of my concerns! Hughes obviously had to go, and if Harry turns things round I will bury my innate dislike under a hill of positivity ( or at least sullen silence) much like I did with Warnock.
Regarding the reconstruction of the club from the roots up (wouldn't it be great to see a QPR academy player in the first team again in my lifetime?) I thought that was Rigg's responsibility on the playing /staff side ( we pay him £400k a year apparently) and Beard's on the capital/infrastructure side. TF says the long term vision is still in place, and the worst we can hope for is that Harry lets them get on with it while he focuses on the first team.
It will be very interesting to judge the atmosphere at the Villa game.