Gerrard

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

Was Gerard world class?? Maybe, he was on the cusp certainly. He certainly put in some world class performances over the years but having never won a league title and never really performed at the same level for England; it's hard to put him in the same bracket as world class players like Zidane, Ronaldo, Messi, Xavi, Inniesta, Ronaldinho etc. He's certainly in the next bracket though as I believe Lampard was in his prime.

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

Was Gerard world class?? Maybe, he was on the cusp certainly. He certainly put in some world class performances over the years but having never won a league title and never really performed at the same level for England; it's hard to put him in the same bracket as world class players like Zidane, Ronaldo, Messi, Xavi, Inniesta, Ronaldinho etc. He's certainly in the next bracket though as I believe Lampard was in his prime.

Agree. Frank VG. And had some massive games, especially in champions league. Semi v Liverpool, final v United.

Even tried to drag England back into the match in Blomfontein hitting the crossbar and disallowed goal. But not quote world class. Didier maybe?

 

[CPofL KTBFFH]

It was nothing to do with 'fear' thats just what bitter Chav fans tell themselves because they can't conceive of a quality player who would rather play for Liverpool than them.

Its easy to settle this though but you have to answer honestly.

If you were blessed enough to become the captain and most important player for the club you support since being a kid, so Chelsea in your lots instance, would you leave all that, especially when all your friends and family also all live there too.

Of course you wouldn't.

Gerrards still at Liverpool for the same reasons Le Tissier never left Southampton.

Oh, and he also turned Mourinho down again in 2010 when he rejected a £10m move to Real Madrid. Funnily enough a big factor in him turning that move down was Torres agreeing to stay at Liverpool the same Summer.

People who don't follow Liverpool, and hence haven't followed his career as closely, will never appreciate just how good a player he WAS in his pomp.

It was according to his own father in a court of law under oath.

 

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

Agree. Frank VG. And had some massive games, especially in champions league. Semi v Liverpool, final v United.

Even tried to drag England back into the match in Blomfontein hitting the crossbar and disallowed goal. But not quote world class. Didier maybe?

Didier could do things that most other players couldn't. Arguably best ever sole striker.

If there was any doubts as to whether he was world class, the performances in the semi and finals in last seasons fa cup and C.L should have silenced that. Far far better big game player than Henry, Rooney etc...

 

[Master Yoda]

World class is an overused word.

World class players win European Cups AND leagues regularly such as Zidane Platini Messi Ronaldo Ron 2 Gullit Van Basten Maldini Iniesta ....and some of the very exceptional ones inspire teams to win World Cups and European Championships too.

To be world class, you have to win your national league for a start!

Gazza could have been world class, Rooney maybe if he can inspire England one day; he has the club CV at least, which SG never had.

Flawed logic. Great players can play for teams below their standard. It's called loyalty and/or nationality.

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

It was according to his own father in a court of law under oath.

Yep, the gangsters threatened his parents so he stayed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rrard-murky-depths-Liverpools-underworld.html

 

[Sharpe*]

Whilst Gerrard's loyalty to Liverpool is admirable, it is possible that he would have enriched his footballing knowledge as well as his life experiences at a different club. If he had gone abroad, he would have enriched not only his knowledge of the game, but learnt a new language and adapted to a new culture.

That's asuming he'd want to! Bit patronising mate!

 

[Redbrynner]

To be world class you have to win a league title????????????

Wow!!!! just wow!!!!

There are some good posters on this board, but there are also some proper clueless idiots.

I think some people need to learn to be a bit objective and accept Gerrard for the world class player he has been for Liverpool over the years

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

To be world class you have to win a league title????????????

Wow!!!! just wow!!!!

There are some good posters on this board, but there are also some proper clueless idiots.

I think some people need to learn to be a bit objective and accept Gerrard for the world class player he has been for Liverpool over the years

A dive in Istanbul and two matchwinners v west ham
And olympiakos hardly makes him Zidane

 

[AlphaCanine]

Gerrard is a world class player he is versatile as he can play in many advanced attacking midfield positions and is a player who has an eye for a long and short pass (got 104 assists for Liverpool), has running and dribbling skills also he can shoot from long range and has ability to score goals (got 151 goals for Liverpool).
Click the link to see Gerrard's career statistics see here: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/7935/steven-gerrard?cc=5739

Steven Gerrard club honours:
Liverpool
FA Cup (2): 2000–01, 2005–06; Runner Up (1) 2011–12
League Cup (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12; Runner Up (1) 2004–05
FA Community Shield (2): 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League (1): 2004–05; Runner Up (1) 2006–07
UEFA Cup (1): 2000–01
UEFA Super Cup (2): 2001, 2005

Lampard is a different type of player but also world class he is is more of a hard working box to box midfielder who makes late runs into the box, he can't dictate the play but can keep possession and possesses good technical abilities also his long balls and final ball are exemplary (got 120 assists for Chelsea) and he has the ability to score lots of goals (got 189 goals for Chelsea).
Click the link to see Lampard's career statistics: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/8941/frank-lampard?cc=5739#

Frank Lampard Chelsea club honours:
Chelsea
FA Premier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10
FA Cup (4): 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2011–12
Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009
UEFA Champions League (1): 2011–12

If you can only have one of the two I would still select Lampard in my team a head of Gerrard for Lampard's goals and assists and have the team built around Lampard.