Wednesday 31st October - Daily Thread

[Benvenuto Cellini]

Fame and Glory wins the first anyway. That filly has a chance but the value is Shirocco Star at 8s e/w with the best jockey in the game on top

ive been backing Shirocco all year, I was on at 20s for the Oaks, lovely filly, she wont be winning tomorrow im afraid so dont waste your money.

Fame And Glory is not the same horse, he wont be winning either.

Fame and Glory not the same horse? Based on 1 run

hes finished m8, once a Montjeu goes they dont come back, no show in the Gold Cup, shadow of his best in the Irish Leger, last season emptied him mentally and he should be retired after tomorrow.

Shadow of his best in last years Ledger still hacked up in this race last year. Forgive him Ascot, any horse can put in a shocker, and he's a heck of a price-just like he was last year.

It was different last year, it was too bad to be true, he had no excuses in this years renewal and he has been beaten by horses he would have destroyed in the last few seasons when holding every chance 1f out, he also dosent want heavy ground, he likes nice ground and I just dont think the horse has this race in him anymore in this type of ground, I wouldnt waste my money.

Do you ever read the crap that comes out of your mouth??

No excuses this time round except that he physically looked like he needed the run and then attempted to make all. He went out like a light which backs up the fact he badly needed the run. Also yes he only won 1 1/4L last year but he won it so easily. I knew I'd won 4-5f out, I even said as much at the time. He won with plenty up his sleeve. I don't buy the ground factor either, he ran 5th in the Arc on vsoft ground (Workforce's Arc) as a 4yo when badly hampered and he won the Criterium on heavy as a 2yo.

You mean the crap that comes off of my fingers?

I also knew that I was up for my money 4 out that day, and a great bet he was that day, but that vibe is not there this time around and Ill tell you why, because the horse has had enough, once a Montjeu turns there is no coming back. Workforce's Arc was the worst Arc of all time, I will stand by that statement till the day I die, no one here likes Fame And Glory more than me, I had one of the biggest bets of my life on him against Sea The Stars in the Derby and id love to see him win again, but I know the horse is gone and I wont throw my money away on ground that he hates.

AFTER THE RACE

O'Brien felt Fame And Glory's attitude could be called into question when he finished only fifth behind Rite Of Passage on Champions Day, and will test him on dirt for the first time in the Breeders' Cup Marathon.

We are taking a bit of a chance I suppose.

He's got a little bit clever - he handles fast ground but he's a little bit older and wiser now and when the going gets tough he's very happy to curl up and not to try very hard.

Master Of Glesga bossin it as per the script

Punchestown
1.15 Buckers Bridge
1.45 Double Seven
2.20 Clonbanan Lad
2.55 Ravensbury
4.00 Taispeantas

 

[Galaxy]

A big good marning ta all ma followers. I have a cuppla big uns faw yas this marning

CAPTAIN SCOOBY - 12.20 Nott @ 14

LASTKINGOFSCOTLAND - 2.40 Ling @ 14

bath should be nice odds ona place an all

As always JOB DONE!!

 

[gazboy]

Weloveyourtips - is this your annual wash or are you not even that regular with your nice bath?

 

[Galaxy]

Aye Gaz, i hav trublle wiv ma troosers

 

[Ron]

Why do I get the feeling that isn't going to be the only script in this thread?

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Just the one fancy again today. 15.45 Lingfield has a few with chances but I like the look of the lightly raced Estedaama who seems to be improving with distance and ran a cracker over 4f shorter on this course, finishing like a train to finish 3l 3rd, having to make up at least 10l in the final furlong coming wide off the bend.

 

[ArkleSupreme]

WLYT certainly registers a 10 from me for enthusiasm and entertainment value !

Hope to have a "good thing" today later on....just one winner and two seconds out of the four advised yesterday ,though as advised no bets from me.

 

[Brough Tiger]

Ill nominate one for today.... Albasharah 5.35 Kempton. Won impressively on debut and races in a handicap today with Harry Bentley once again taking the ride.

 

[Ron]

WLYT certainly registers a 10 from me for enthusiasm and entertainment value !

Hope to have a "good thing" today later on....just one winner and two seconds out of the four advised yesterday ,though as advised no bets from me.

One tip, one winner from me yesterday. OK it was 8/11 but I advised at 10/11.

That's put the mockers on today's selection.

Good luck all.

 

[GGW]

It was different last year, it was too bad to be true, he had no excuses in this years renewal and he has been beaten by horses he would have destroyed in the last few seasons when holding every chance 1f out, he also dosent want heavy ground, he likes nice ground and I just dont think the horse has this race in him anymore in this type of ground, I wouldnt waste my money. Opinion Poll will love conditions, is an improved horse this year and is coming here trained for the race and fresh, hes an absolute certainty. There was only 1 1/4 between them last year on nice ground, Opinion Poll will turn that round on the this ground before you even take into account that Fame And Glory is beyond producing another performance like that.

Your full quote Boris. 100/30 favourite as well. 'Bossin' it indeed


At least your tips are consistent

 

[ArkleSupreme]

Ron..was that the same as my pick... The Tiger ?

I didn't see you post any selections on the Daily Thread !

I need to pay more attention if you did...well done !

 

[Galaxy]

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2 people reported wiv shark bites ain New Jersey

 

[Ron]

Ron..was that the same as my pick... The Tiger ?

I didn't see you post any selections on the Daily Thread !

I need to pay more attention if you did...well done !

It was on the opening post AS, here

 

[Brough Tiger]

Paul Nicholls has just confirmed on twitter that kauto star has been retired

 

[SaveTheHumans]

Look forward to Bucker's Bridge for Henry De Bromhead today in the Beginner's chase at Punchestown, by all accounts if he jumps around he wins.

 

[Ron]

Paul Nicholls has just confirmed on twitter that kauto star has been retired

Why did I feel a touch of sadness when I read that? Here's to a long and happy retirement. Will he be in retirement with his stable mate and great friend Denman? That would be a happy ending.

 

[ArkleSupreme]

If the price is right may be worth doing a Dutching win bet with Sword Of Destiny STH as Meade won the same race last year..be interesting to see what odds they both end up at.

My good thing today apparently is 6.35 Kempton Tropics though there are 2 unraced Gosden runners who are unknown quantities !

Anyway,those who know me know I never invest at All Weather tracks anyway so no bet for me.

Isola Verde is also fancied each way or tote place in the 1.30 at Lingfield whilst Tawseef is expected to win the 3.35 at Nottingham

Another watching day for me though Good Luck if anyone plays any of the above !

 

[Galaxy]

If the price is right may be worth doing a Dutching win bet with Sword Of Destiny STH as Meade won the same race last year..be interesting to see what odds they both end up at.

My good thing today apparently is 6.35 Kempton Tropics though there are 2 unraced Gosden runners who are unknown quantities !

Anyway,those who know me know I never invest at All Weather tracks anyway so no bet for me.

Isola Verde is also fancied each way or tote place in the 1.30 at Lingfield whilst Tawseef is expected to win the 3.35 at Nottingham

Another watching day for me though Good Luck if anyone plays any of the above !

Arkle hav ya gone completly mad marn? you'd hav to stake ah £100 to get a return o £7.95

 

[rainbowview]

Ron Denman is a hunter and team chaser now. I very much doubt Kauto Star will be doing that.

 

[ArkleSupreme]

WLYT...The Dutching win bet in the last at Taunton reaped a profit yesterday !

It's all about juggling your bet and taking the best price on offer for the two horses selected.

Obviously if one of the pair is odds-on then it is a no-go !

You follow ?

 

[ArkleSupreme]

Indeed, RV and they wouldn't send Kauto Star hunter-chasing with Denman as he has already seen his behind three times out of the four they met ,and we all know there were mitigating circumstances for the other occasion !