Shameful

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Dave! CS must be punished for causing me to miss the chance to finally shake Paul McVeigh's hand. It's now the fourth time I've missed the chance.
 
robbieBB said:
Last night at the Wednesday v Leeds match, Dave Jones was subjected to chanting every bit as abhorrent as racist abuse. Twelve years ago he was accused of sexually abusing youngsters in a home; he stood trial and was acquitted, the judge specifically saying that ‘no wrong-doing whatsoever has been established’. Yet Jones and his family have to endure that sort of vile taunting to this day, and there are posters on here who apparently think there's nothing wrong in repeating such discredited tittle tattle. Is this sort of vile behaviour any more excusable than racism, and why isn't it met with similar outrage? We fans are quick to condemn racism in this country, while apparently acquiescing in similarly abhorrent forms of personal abuse.
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Apparently in football grounds it is "banter"! hence seems to be tolerated among many, which says to me that there is a long, long way to go to inside stadiums to make the atmosphere free of abuse, racism, hatred, violence etc.
 
canary-dave said:
Robbie, I've not seen anyone on here abusing anyone else in the way that you mention! If it happened, trust me, it would be dealt with in the same manner as racial, or homophobic abuse! I ask anyone who see's this sort of thing on here with no action taken, please notify Maestro or myself! It will not be tolerated! <ok>
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Dave, I was referring to posts which repeat "discredited tittle tattle" about managers, players etc. I didn't mean people on here attacking other posters. If you want examples: posts propagating the scandalous Morison/Tierney gossip; posts referring to "Porno Jewell", and the like. Thai points out that footie fans like to claim that this sort of dirt is "banter". Well it isn't. <ok>
 
redruthyella said:
I have played against Yugoslavs and believe me I'm not exaggerating when I say knives have been pulled at junior football matches. They are a volatile, emotional and demonstrative race of people.
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They're a disgrace to the human race. They belong in cages in the zoo as far as I'm concerned, lets not forget about 17-18 years ago during the wars it was perfectly acceptable for them to go into villages rape all the women and massacre everyone. Barbarians who need to learn manners if I had my own way I'd carpet bomb the ****ers back into Stoneage.
 
Northamptonncfc said:
They're a disgrace to the human race. They belong in cages in the zoo as far as I'm concerned, lets not forget about 17-18 years ago during the wars it was perfectly acceptable for them to go into villages rape all the women and massacre everyone. Barbarians who need to learn manners if I had my own way I'd carpet bomb the ****ers back into Stoneage.
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I suppose carpet bombing is preferable to machine gunning or whatever; at least the guys dropping the bombs aren't in a position to rape anyone. As for saying "They belong in cages in the zoo", that is precisely how those who make monkey noises and gestures from the terraces think.
 
gruffnuts said:
why is it disgraceful? if it came from man utd, then surely its just the club highlighting how ridiculous terry's punishment was...which isnt really news...
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It's disgraceful because it shows the disparity between club and national FA when dealing with such issues. Rio F chose not to wear it to show his disapproval of the paltry sentence given to Terry for racially abusing his brother - yet for his troubles, he gets hit with an equivalent financial penalty. Disgraceful, as I already said.
 
robbieBB said:
I suppose carpet bombing is preferable to machine gunning or whatever; at least the guys dropping the bombs aren't in a position to rape anyone. As for saying "They belong in cages in the zoo", that is precisely how those who make monkey noises and gestures from the terraces think.
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Thanks Mr Self Righteous.
 
robbieBB said:
Dave, I was referring to posts which repeat "discredited tittle tattle" about managers, players etc. I didn't mean people on here attacking other posters. If you want examples: posts propagating the scandalous Morison/Tierney gossip; posts referring to "Porno Jewell", and the like. Thai points out that footie fans like to claim that this sort of dirt is "banter". Well it isn't. <ok>
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I've read this thread today, and don't really get your points at all Robbie? Porno Paul and two players being gossiped about is not that same as a whole stadium racially abusing players on the pitch and than their safety being under threat. I don't understand your point on that at all.

Danny's Rose's reaction was nothing, where is the proof that he was even aiming that ball at the fans or he just kicked the ball out of frustration. I think Danny Rose dealt with it brilliantly myself, and the whole England team deserve credit for the way they handled it, Butland got everyone down the tunnel. Unfortunately anyone with an England badge on their chest was targetted.
 
YellowLittle said:
I've read this thread today, and don't really get your points at all Robbie? Porno Paul and two players being gossiped about is not that same as a whole stadium racially abusing players on the pitch and than their safety being under threat. I don't understand your point on that at all.
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The thread is entitled "Shameful". The post you are referring to was prompted by the sickening chanting aimed at Dave Jones by Leeds fans at the Wednesday v Leeds game. My point was simply that racist abuse is not the only sort of shameful behaviour encountered at football matches, and some of the attitudes which such behaviour incorporates can also be found on forums such as this. I was not suggesting that broadcasting gossip about Morison and Tierney is on a par with what happened either at Hillsborough or at the Under 21 match in Serbia. Shamefulness has degrees. But football would be the better for being rid not just of racism but of shameful behaviour generally. <ok>
 
Cromercanary said:
It's disgraceful because it shows the disparity between club and national FA when dealing with such issues. Rio F chose not to wear it to show his disapproval of the paltry sentence given to Terry for racially abusing his brother - yet for his troubles, he gets hit with an equivalent financial penalty. Disgraceful, as I already said.
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still unsure what exactly is disgraceful. if you mean the paltry sentence/fine handed out to terry, then yes, that is disgraceful, but that isn't news. if you mean man utd handing ferdinand the same fine, then i dont understand how that is a disgrace? man utd set the fine themselves, and how strange they should make it exactly the same as terry's fine - could it be that they are trying to draw comparisons in the players behaviour and associated fine? making their point well...
 
Cromercanary said:
It's disgraceful because it shows the disparity between club and national FA when dealing with such issues. Rio F chose not to wear it to show his disapproval of the paltry sentence given to Terry for racially abusing his brother - yet for his troubles, he gets hit with an equivalent financial penalty. Disgraceful, as I already said.
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You haven't replied why Ferdinand thinks its OK to call gays ***gots. Is it because he is equally as bigoted as John Terry? How about Peter Tatchell taking him to court! Maybe another £220,000, which by the way is two weeks wages, the maximum the club could fine him I imagine.
 
robbieBB said:
The thread is entitled "Shameful". The post you are referring to was prompted by the sickening chanting aimed at Dave Jones by Leeds fans at the Wednesday v Leeds game. My point was simply that racist abuse is not the only sort of shameful behaviour encountered at football matches, and some of the attitudes which such behaviour incorporates can also be found on forums such as this. I was not suggesting that broadcasting gossip about Morison and Tierney is on a par with what happened either at Hillsborough or at the Under 21 match in Serbia. Shamefulness has degrees. But football would be the better for being rid not just of racism but of shameful behaviour generally. <ok>
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Do you go up to people telling edgy jokes and tell them they're 'sickening', or do you just reserve your feigned moral indignation for when you're on the internet, and cued by the tabloids to be angry.
 
Exodus Geohaghon said:
Do you go up to people telling edgy jokes and tell them they're 'sickening', or do you just reserve your feigned moral indignation for when you're on the internet, and cued by the tabloids to be angry.
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That probably made sense in your head.
 
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