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While I doubt it would happen, and obviously I'd rather go up under our own steam than via a points deduction, I'd take it.

If a points deduction is what it takes for us to go to the premiership then it'd be foolish of anyone to say that they wouldn't want to (IMO). Perhaps if it were a club without the financial resources of QPR then I'd feel different, Watford for example; however as a club we desperately need the financial stability even a fleeting season in the premiership can bring, and if it is at the expense of QPR then so be it.

Ruthless? Probably. Sensible? Yes.
 
Totally agree, I'd take promotion anyway we can take it - the financial stability for the next 4 years (with parachute payments etc.) would suit me just fine (£48m in 4 years).

However, I do feel it a tad harsh on QPR as they deserve to be where they are. However, if the league starts showing too much leniency then it could undermine the entire structure of the FL. Would the Premier League frown upon it....it would appear so!?

Anyway, we will be concentrating on our next match aginst Pompey on Monday night so I guess this is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.

OTBC
 
NORWICHFANNOTON606 said:
However, I do feel it a tad harsh on QPR as they deserve to be where they are.

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Under normal circumstances I would agree but if the board has created an uneven playing field by registering a player not under their ownership then can not be allowed to go unpunished and they should be made example of as this is the 1st instance following the Tevez affair which brought about the 3rd party ownership rules that have been introduced since, which QPR were (or at least should have been) aware of (ignorance is no excuse).

While I would rather we went up through our own efforts I would have little or no sympathy for QPR as a team (maybe for some of the fans) and if they got a points reduction that either put them in the play off mix or even well out of that mix (would it be right for them to have a 2nd bite of the cherry?)
 
I must admit I don't think you can really call it the English Premier League if Cardiff or Swansea go up, but thats another story.

On topic, I think its catch-22 for the FA. If evidence of wrongdoing exists, then finding them innocent sets a precedent meaning no other team can really be found guilty of the same thing in the future. If they find them guilty, if they fine QPR then everyone will complain its not enough, and equally if its a token point deduction. If they give a significant points deduction which puts QPR out of the top two, then they will naturally appeal, and then what?

You can't start the play-offs not knowing who is in them, dragging everything out long into the summer, making the whole thing quite farcical. I'm very curious to see what they do!
 
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DHCanary said:
I must admit I don't think you can really call it the English Premier League if Cardiff or Swansea go up, but thats another story.

On topic, I think its catch-22 for the FA. If evidence of wrongdoing exists, then finding them innocent sets a precedent meaning no other team can really be found guilty of the same thing in the future. If they find them guilty, if they fine QPR then everyone will complain its not enough, and equally if its a token point deduction. If they give a significant points deduction which puts QPR out of the top two, then they will naturally appeal, and then what?

You can't start the play-offs not knowing who is in them, dragging everything out long into the summer, making the whole thing quite farcical. I'm very curious to see what they do!
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Its not the English Premier League
Its the F.A premier league
But I think at the end of the day 99% of us QPR and Norwich fans would rather us two go up
It costs to much money and time keep going to Cardiff and especially Swansea
And how do they justify all that money for crossing the severn
I notice that we dont charge the Welsh anything when they cross it into England
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THE play offs wil start regardless of QPRs protests if they finish 3rd, They can boycott them and hand 6th place a free run but they won t postpone them .......<laugh>. Sensible debate without a youtube link andy, well done it must be difficult ..
 
QPR never broke any rules at the time of the signing. It was because the FA in true moronic fashion were so eager to bring in the rule change that they backdated to the time before Faurlin was signed that this has happened. As it is, I'll accept we broke the rules iandvertantly for the best part of a year before we handed him a contract extension at which point we discovered the rule break. So therefore the idea of a points deduction we would have to be backdated to the previous season. This 15 point deduction idea is nothing more than bullshit spouted the Sun, if they had a shred of credibility than I would be worried but the fact the FA are distancing themselves so far from it and in Warnocks word, "the source came from the Sun newsroom" then Im inclined to believe that a heavy fine is all we will recieve with possibly Briatore and/or Paladini being banned from the game which is something most QPR fans would not be too upset about
 
I have to say, because of the majority of decent QPR fans that I've come across, both on here, and on other forums, I hope you are right. There is no doubt whatsoever, that on the pitch, this season, you have earned the right to be crowned champions, to lose it because of off-field matters would be very hard to bear. Good luck <ok>
 
ThaiCanary said:
Under normal circumstances I would agree but if the board has created an uneven playing field by registering a player not under their ownership then can not be allowed to go unpunished and they should be made example of as this is the 1st instance following the Tevez affair which brought about the 3rd party ownership rules that have been introduced since, which QPR were (or at least should have been) aware of (ignorance is no excuse).

While I would rather we went up through our own efforts I would have little or no sympathy for QPR as a team (maybe for some of the fans) and if they got a points reduction that either put them in the play off mix or even well out of that mix (would it be right for them to have a 2nd bite of the cherry?)
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Ignorance is not an excuse, quite correct. I think you'll find that Faurlin was signed before the rules regarding 3rd party ownership were introduced and that those rules were applied retrospectively. Ignorance of future rules which are not yet in existence might seem like quite a good excuse.
 
queensparkrangers said:
Ignorance is not an excuse, quite correct. I think you'll find that Faurlin was signed before the rules regarding 3rd party ownership were introduced and that those rules were applied retrospectively. Ignorance of future rules which are not yet in existence might seem like quite a good excuse.
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If he was indeed signed up before the new ruling was in place then why is there an investigation? Surely a simple document to disclose the date should be enough to knock this on it's head.

I think there may be more to this than meets the eye maybe.
 
Like any legal case, if a member of the FA had given an interview stating the proposed outcome ...The case has been compromised . If the SUN just made the story up then QPR will have to try and get damages from Ruperts News international group. The FA have issued a statement that they didn t authorise any interviews with the SUN..... No source was named in the article......
 
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