Ristac - I think it's far too early to be reading LUST's eulogy, let's see what comes to light when the clouds of bullshit clear and judge based on facts rather than suspicious "joint" statements.
How was it suspicious? The only way it could be judged so would be if it was a fake. If it was a fake it would have been removed long before now and DH would have said so in words so short even a naive idealist tax dodger could understand. I understand a few unnhappy people are going tonight and I only hope there is no serious trouble.
My support for them vanished before the statement Simon, that's my point though, LUST lost me along the way, they also lost a lot of other support. Would LUST have been as popular as they were without Ken Bates - Of course not, they gained support solely because we have the most hated chairman in world football. If you have skysports look at the teletext news for Leeds, the top story have a read, in the article it says "Haigh Hits Out At LUST" it goes on to say that David Haigh said he is looking forward to speaking with ALL Leeds supporters groups, not just one and it repeats that nobody has been in touch. Damage is done as far as I am concerned and if you recall just a day or two before this **** hit the fan incident, I said on this forum I hope LUST are not involved with around the table talks speaking as one voice What is suspicious about it? If you look at the twitter accounts from GFH members, Haigh and Salem Patel they both tweet #LUFC update statement on LUFC website - I think they might have added something should they have not been involved. I think common sense needs to take priority over conspiracy and arm behind back time I find it strange you can try and read something into a statement which clearly states "Haigh Said" and to which he has had plenty of time to respond to yet you can believe a LUST statement regarding players unrest without an ounce of evidence, you have to be honest and admit you are allowing "what you wish it to be" to cloud your judgement. Admitting LUST have failed doesn't mean you want to jump into bed with Ken - Promise
I'm not saying it's fake, I'm saying it very much appears that Bates has forced Haigh's hand. It was very carefully worded to emphasise the non-breaking of Non-Disclosure and then brushed off very quickly afterwards. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Bates has told GFH that not denying contact with LUST would mean breaking the NDA and the end of the deal, that way he gets someone else to attack his least favourite group of people, and if they hadn't he'd have an excuse to back down because "they broke non-disclosure so clearly they couldn't be trusted". The players statement was never denied and it's sentiments have since been reiterated by Snodgrass and McCormack. It doesn't take a genius to see links between the statement and what they've said personally.
It couldn't be denied as no names were mentioned and as much as it wasn't denied it wasn't accepted either - "sentiments" are as you wish to see or perceive them, there are no facts or evidence. IF you are right regarding Bates > GFH > NDA then who's fault is it? It is LUST's fault nobody else's. Supporters of LUST will say fans have a right to know, those against will say they should have kept quiet rather than risk collapsing the deal and making it obvious the NDA has been breached. Me personally, I don't think either, I think LUST wanted to score brownie points, gain popularity and big themselves up, they wanted to show that they are doing something before today's meeting, they wanted to blow their own trumpet and it has backfired. IF Gary Cooper really is in it for Leeds United he will step down tonight and allow someone else to salvage the mess, you cannot deny that GC has too many enemies, rightly or wrongly he has them which is unusual considering he shouldn't have to do anything to win support when we have Ken in charge. A bit like Labour at the last election, they did not have to do anything to lose it, the Country hated them and if the Tory's had anyone else in charge other than Cameron they would have walked it.
I slightly resent that mate if you are suggesting Bates has swayed me, he has had nothing to do with it. I stopped supporting LUST before this, I stopped when they made too many statements and did too many things I disagreed with. If I am 100% honest I can't totally put my finger on it, I wanted to stick by LUST but I just can't, there is something about them that rubs me up the wrong way.
No resentment needed, it was not aimed at you. I get it that your opinion had changed before the OS statement yesterday. However many have been taken in by that statement, and there are many writing about it that way on another forum and a few here too, demonstrates how effectively the perceived missteps have been used by him to best advantage.
LUST are backtracking now. Its gone from speaking to them every day over the last few months to a couple of text messages received
'I understand a few unhappy people are going tonight and I only hope there is no serious trouble. The full board re-elected, seems its only your mind that's troubled.
That is what most of their critics want and what their supporters recognize they need to do. Their only other choice is to out their sources which would not help anyone.
What is the point in outing their sources when the only real valid source has denied any contact has been made? Best leaving it well alone and let people make their own minds up from what has already been published!
Its not a him Jonny - its a "them" - its GFH that have denied having any contact - and as its them that are the buyers, surely makes them the only valid source - anything from anyone but them is just speculation!!
If LUST turned around tonight and said here you go, look at what McCormack said is McCormack going say yes I did say that and rot in the reserves if this T/O doesn't happen or would he deny any knowledge.... LUST have ended up in a corner that they can't get out of. Gary Cooper to admit mistakes have been made, step down and allow someone new to take it forward and onward. I am not saying he has to say his information was wrong, just the outcome and his or LUSTS decisions.
