Billy Boys To Return

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Biggus Diccus said:
I'm not sure how to answer this MD. This has very quickly been dragged into whitabootery on a grand and bizarre scale.

Firstly, I'd go back to your early assertion about IRA activity in Glasgow in the 20s.

Other than the "breaking of the van" I don't know of any - there well could be loads but the ultimate "whitaboot" to that is "are you telling me that Scots weren't involved in atrocity after atrocity in Ireland?" but I'm not even going down that route.

Are you excusing singing a song about Blackshirts by suggesting that there were IRA incidents in Glasgow in the 20s?

...and Do you believe that all participants in conflict are equal and do you believe that this would be a valid excuse for a German to sing about the 40s Wehrmacht (for example)?

I've now indulged (a wee bit) in the whitabootery <shame>
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You took my first post far too seriously Bib and I wasn't gonnae sit here and have someone tell me one group of fannies is worse than the other.

I know fine well the Billy Boys is in reference to Fullerton and his ilk, I'm not denying that. What I am saying though is there is absolutely no difference in terms of shameful and irresponsible behaviour between most groups of that time especially the Billy Boys and the Conks.

I don't know german culture or what they sing as I don't speak german Bib. What I would say though is it wouldn't surprise me if neo-nazi groups based in germany did sing about the Wehrmacht, in fact I'm fairly sure there are plenty of songs about the SS so ones about the general army wouldn't surprise me in the least.

What I am saying is that to say one group was any worse than the other is just a complete and utter waste of time reserved for the likes of Rebel and BH.
 
MD 20/20 said:
What I am saying is that to say one group was any worse than the other is just a complete and utter waste of time reserved for the likes of Rebel and BH.
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I get that, man and you're right<ok>

Which is why:

a) Cancercunt started this thread

and

b) I regret commenting on it

Songs at football will always be about one group being better or worse than another group and it's a laugh on here to point and laugh at each other but, you're totally right, this is a recipe for a 10 page reasonless dingdong of rhetoric.

It's up to you(s) - if Rangers fans start singing this song, regardless of word changes, you're going to get in trouble.

Now, there's getting in trouble on the basis of standing up for your beliefs (which may or may not be worth it depending on your viewpoint) and there's getting in trouble for the sake of expressing something (that you might not even agree with) out of defiance.

Personally, I don't think it's worth it - much like it's not worth falling out with your mates over football (if that's unavoidable cos your mate that supports another team is a ****, then maybe he shouldn't be your mate).
 
Modro Pendes said:
Do you honestly believe people were referring to Fullertons group when singing this?

Really?

Or were they referring to Rangers fans?

Like I said the lyrics will be changed a little but the main part of it, will stay the same.

I can't wait to hear 50,000+ belt it out again.
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MD 20/20 said:
I know fine well the Billy Boys is in reference to Fullerton and his ilk, I'm not denying that. What I am saying though is there is absolutely no difference in terms of shameful and irresponsible behaviour between most groups of that time especially the Billy Boys and the Conks.
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Well, one if yous <sic> is wrong. Who's going to man enough to admit it?
 
MD 20/20 said:
Go **** yourself you bent bastard.
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Does ****ing yourself make you gay?

That's one for philosophers and others considerably smarter than you MD.



ps In a round about way I was actually on your side but if you're going to get all prissy about it...
 
"rocked stadiums and made struck fear into the hearts of opposing players."

<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

suuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeeeeeee it did
 
I know where the term originated from as does MD but do you think when we sang it we were referencing Fullertons group?

Or just using it to reference Rangers fans in general?
 
Modro Pendes said:
I know where the term originated from as does MD but do you think when we sang it we were referencing Fullertons group?

Or just using it to reference Rangers fans in general?
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I think you sing it as a mating call to attract feral young red headed males - i cant speak for other rangers fans
 
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