How Low Can You Go...................?
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so? yes bravo to him for what he has done and achieved but like i said in my last post what he has done and achieved does not make him exempt from paying what he should pay. it does not give him the right to tax dodge. again fair shout to him gaining a fortune. gaining a fortune in this country means paying a fortune in tax. thats the law im afraid and where he along with many others on that list who is not paying what should be paid, its ****ing up our economy and the lowest paid are the one paying for it. while the rich can keep their wealth and never have to worry about paying the next bill and finding food to provide to their kids. again not doubting the good he has done but the bad he is doing now is not right.
****in whingin hyocrites..
I would love to be a fly on the wall in most of your lives and watch your little efforts at tax dodging of which there would be plenty, if I was Lansdown I would piss off too rather than subsidising a bunch of grabbing do nothings taking the piss on a daily basis.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in most of your lives and watch your little efforts at tax dodging of which there would be plenty, if I was Lansdown I would piss off too rather than subsidising a bunch of grabbing do nothings taking the piss on a daily basis.
Its people like you and yours who are paying the price for the big money tax dodgers.
i am employed and taxes are paid before i even get paid. please explain how i have tax dodged? or what ways i can tax dodge?
Thanks Delboy...appreciate your comments...and I'm not as 'pure as the driven snow' as Bb thinks!
As regards the topic.....I still have no time for people like SL who avoid paying taxes. I worked non-stop
for 40 years and paid tax all through...even before that in holiday jobs. Whether it's an MP or Vodafone
or SL it seems that there's one rule for the rich and one for the rest of us, blue and red!
As regards the topic.....I still have no time for people like SL who avoid paying taxes. I worked non-stop
for 40 years and paid tax all through...even before that in holiday jobs. Whether it's an MP or Vodafone
or SL it seems that there's one rule for the rich and one for the rest of us, blue and red!
Hate the sin not the sinner as they say. Steve lansdown is completely within his rights to move to a tax haven as many many rich people do. If the tax laws were changed then these people wouldn't leave the country. The reason tax levels for the rich are high is that governments want to appease the working class and keep their vote, however they know that this high rate of tax will drive wealthy people away to places like Monaco, Channel Islands, Switzerland etc. So they turn a blind eye to tax loopholes for corporations and wealthy individuals to ensure they stay in the country or at least some of their assets do.
In my view tax should be a flat rate of 30% for everyone, but change the tax laws so that there are no hiding places or loopholes and ensure that everyone pays. More money being spent in the economy, more jobs and wealth creation = more money in the government coffers...
P.S. this is the only thing I have right wing views about, I am generally left wing, particularly for education and health.
interesting view. until the law changes, folk like lansdown will be seen as a tax avoider/dodger which is what were all saying.
The government are too scared to change the tax laws because of a backlash from the working classes. Most have a simplistic view that the rich should pay more because they can afford it (as evidenced by this thread), but ignore the fact that it drives away businesses and weathy people who like it or not create jobs and drive the economy. The problem with Labour for example is that they are too reliant on creating jobs that are in the public sector, in other words salaries paid for by the government. This means that the economy looks rosy for a while - low unemployment, people buying things on credit etc etc but eventually you run out of other people's money and the wheels fall off. Then the Tories come in and cut jobs in the public sector and we have cost cutting years (as now) and because of this the economy shrinks as people don't want to spend money they haven't got, banks stop lending and everything stops. Then Labour come in and round we go again. I would say every election in the last 30 years has been won or lost on the economy. The Tories will most likely lose the next one as the economy has stalled, mind you Ed Miliband is so useless and overly left wing that labour might blow it this time and prove me wrong. Politics eh, all as useless as each other...
Hargreaves Lansdown plc
Industry Financial services
Founded 1981
Headquarters Bristol, UK
Key people Michael Evans (Chairman)
Ian Gorham (CEO)
Peter Hargreaves (former CEO)
Stephen Lansdown (former Chairman)
Revenue £207.9 million (2011)
Operating income £124.4 million (2011)
Net income £91.9 million (2011)
Employees circa 650
All created by 2 men in a flat in Clifton.........650 jobs,£91m income created 2011,Bristol headquarters,a few more people like that and this country would be back at the top,major employer in the Bristol area,money invested at the minimal via Bristol Rugby,money invested at the gate via Bristol City,money invested at UWE via sports stadia (you people educated me on that one),all support for local needs..
These people deserve knighthoods not villification....
Industry Financial services
Founded 1981
Headquarters Bristol, UK
Key people Michael Evans (Chairman)
Ian Gorham (CEO)
Peter Hargreaves (former CEO)
Stephen Lansdown (former Chairman)
Revenue £207.9 million (2011)
Operating income £124.4 million (2011)
Net income £91.9 million (2011)
Employees circa 650
All created by 2 men in a flat in Clifton.........650 jobs,£91m income created 2011,Bristol headquarters,a few more people like that and this country would be back at the top,major employer in the Bristol area,money invested at the minimal via Bristol Rugby,money invested at the gate via Bristol City,money invested at UWE via sports stadia (you people educated me on that one),all support for local needs..
These people deserve knighthoods not villification....
wiz 
as stated above in many posts, no one here is suggesting the good that he has done is not good. fair shout to the guy for doing what he has done. fair shout to the guy for gaining a wealth that no one here combined will ever see in our life time.
however he along with everyone else has to pay the tax that the law demands. all the good he has done doesnt mean he is exempt from paying the tax that he is suppose to pay. he has found a loophole where he can avoid paying tax that he is suppose to pay and thats by moving to guernsey. where he has decided to do that, the good that he has done for the economy by creating jobs etc is being turned to bad as he is not paying the tax he should be meaning he along with the other who do the same are putting a strain on the economy and that is out of pure greed while the rest of us suffer in this financial climate. if he along with everyone else who do the same, pay what they should pay instead of avoiding paying it, that money could fund thousands and thousands of jobs in hospitals or make new/more hospitals and care homes along with many other things that are needed. instead hospitals are closing down along with care homes and nhs staff are under paid and over worked.
as stated above in many posts, no one here is suggesting the good that he has done is not good. fair shout to the guy for doing what he has done. fair shout to the guy for gaining a wealth that no one here combined will ever see in our life time.however he along with everyone else has to pay the tax that the law demands. all the good he has done doesnt mean he is exempt from paying the tax that he is suppose to pay. he has found a loophole where he can avoid paying tax that he is suppose to pay and thats by moving to guernsey. where he has decided to do that, the good that he has done for the economy by creating jobs etc is being turned to bad as he is not paying the tax he should be meaning he along with the other who do the same are putting a strain on the economy and that is out of pure greed while the rest of us suffer in this financial climate. if he along with everyone else who do the same, pay what they should pay instead of avoiding paying it, that money could fund thousands and thousands of jobs in hospitals or make new/more hospitals and care homes along with many other things that are needed. instead hospitals are closing down along with care homes and nhs staff are under paid and over worked.
Del and Wiz.
Would you really adopt this attitude towards these tax avoiders if your major sponsor was not involved in what most people consider to be a scam?
No-one is knocking the entrepeneurs who make businesses which create wealth and employment for large numbers of ordinary working folk.
Its the efforts of ordinary working folk who provide the core activity which enables these businesses to be succesful. BUT those ordinary working folk have to turn up for work each day and unable, nor able to afford, to fly to work from tax havens to avoid paying the regulation taxes.
This government has put huge restraints on the economy, effectively reducing the income of nearly all working and pensionable people. The effect of these hard times is that the country has paid off 25 percent of the structural deficit. Now you tell me why common all garden working folk should bear this burden while tax dodgers can walk away from a fair play situation and spend their money on whatever little trivial pursuit they feel the yen for.
Just step back and look at the bigger picture. This country is in a hellova mess as a result of over borrowing and all the of UK citizens who earn in the UK should shoulder the burden, not just the non-priviliged masses.
Fair play should come into the equation and fair play now! New regulations and another load of red tape to adjust the situation will not only take a long time to put into place, but just be seen as yet another challenge to the sharp accountants.
Would you really adopt this attitude towards these tax avoiders if your major sponsor was not involved in what most people consider to be a scam?
No-one is knocking the entrepeneurs who make businesses which create wealth and employment for large numbers of ordinary working folk.
Its the efforts of ordinary working folk who provide the core activity which enables these businesses to be succesful. BUT those ordinary working folk have to turn up for work each day and unable, nor able to afford, to fly to work from tax havens to avoid paying the regulation taxes.
This government has put huge restraints on the economy, effectively reducing the income of nearly all working and pensionable people. The effect of these hard times is that the country has paid off 25 percent of the structural deficit. Now you tell me why common all garden working folk should bear this burden while tax dodgers can walk away from a fair play situation and spend their money on whatever little trivial pursuit they feel the yen for.
Just step back and look at the bigger picture. This country is in a hellova mess as a result of over borrowing and all the of UK citizens who earn in the UK should shoulder the burden, not just the non-priviliged masses.
Fair play should come into the equation and fair play now! New regulations and another load of red tape to adjust the situation will not only take a long time to put into place, but just be seen as yet another challenge to the sharp accountants.
How are you intending to make these people pay tax without a change in the system and more 'red tape' then? You can't stop people from moving abroad. What you can do is encourage them to stay or come here in the first place.
Thank god for our major sponsors,if 650 plus jobs and all the people that work for their suppliers had not been available,the taxes they pay,the money they spend locally would not exist, therefore we would have to pay deserved benefits to all the out of work folk,their dependents,a double whammy avoided thanks directly to Lansdown and his ilk....
Just out of interest,when Mcgoo was appointed,I seem to remember we all had to wait for 10 days for Nick Higgs to become available to interview him because 80% plus of his time was taken up in Italy where his business interests were keeping him occupied,I believe he still lives and works over there,if this is true, his investments must be paying Italien workers in his companies employ and he must pay taxation to the Italien goverment on his profits,what's worse in your judgement,employing 650 plus people in Bristol and all the benefits the UK goverment and local authorities get from that or making your profits abroad,paying foriegn workers and taxes to a foreign government....
Just out of interest,when Mcgoo was appointed,I seem to remember we all had to wait for 10 days for Nick Higgs to become available to interview him because 80% plus of his time was taken up in Italy where his business interests were keeping him occupied,I believe he still lives and works over there,if this is true, his investments must be paying Italien workers in his companies employ and he must pay taxation to the Italien goverment on his profits,what's worse in your judgement,employing 650 plus people in Bristol and all the benefits the UK goverment and local authorities get from that or making your profits abroad,paying foriegn workers and taxes to a foreign government....
Would you come back to this country for £10 million quid a year (or whatever it is)?
Hargreaves Lansdown (the company) could easily up sticks and move abroad if this country pisses them off too much. It is a global economy now and large companies will go where suits them best financially. If they do that, not only will we lose SL's tax money (as we already have) but we will lose millions in corporation tax and 700 or so people will be unemployed and we will lose their tax as well. Be careful what you wish for as someday this country could be devoid of entrepreneurs and businesses and be full of NHS staff and council workers with no one to pay their wages.
wiz and del, you both seem to keep saying all the good he has done and use that to justify the bad he is doing now. you both seem to think we should just accept its ok for the tax dodgers to tax dodge just in case they move sticks.
just crazy.
i wash my hands with this madness.
just crazy.
i wash my hands with this madness.
Wash your mouth out cjs, as you have all been sucking dunsdord cock while he milks you out of your hard earned wage that you spend supporting a club that sells your assets and never replaces as promised, as I have stated in another thread you and many other sag ****s have took the piss once to often re bcfc. Your season is becoming a laughing stock and I hope and pray you ****ers go down.
Just a simple suggestion that we all stick to footy matters on this site please.
COR
don't think thats a good idea with your club being 91st in the football league..
Back to the tax debate!
