The Illuminati

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Kyle? said:
Sorry, but is the illuminati even real? I know there was evidence to support it's existence in the 19th century, but that was 200 years ago.
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Well artists say that it is real and I would find it weird if they were just saying that for no apparent reason.

I know free masons are real,they wanted my Grandad to join...
 
From all that i've quickly skim read, the illuminati is a fictional version of the freemasons. So they obviously just laze around playing golf then.
 
Lamberto said:
Well artists say that it is real and I would find it weird if they were just saying that for no apparent reason.

I know free masons are real,they wanted my Grandad to join...
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I know a freemason. They don't do ****.

And yes, he plays a lot of golf. <laugh>
 
Joe Steinberg said:
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He said so himself for the love of crap.
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Yeah,but he could easily of been forced by the US government to say that so they could blame the arabs for planning 9/11 so they could invade that part of the world for oil.

Why doesn't the US government show the hidden footage of the plane that hit the Pentagon?There is footage from a near by hotel that shows better images of the so called "plane" the hit the building,but the CIA confiscated the images...why?
 
Lamberto said:
The 9/11 warning signs are weird though.
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[video=youtube;2iMG3QwrimQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iMG3QwrimQ[/video]

what about these "signs" though, people look for things like this and only take notice when it confirms their belief
 
Lamberto said:
Yeah,but he could easily of been forced by the US government to say that so they could blame the arabs for planning 9/11 so they could invade that part of the world for oil.

Why doesn't the US government show the hidden footage of the plane that hit the Pentagon?There is footage from a near by hotel that shows better images of the so called "plane" the hit the building,but the CIA confiscated the images...why?
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Invade what part of the world? Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia, and the terrorists involved were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Lebanon. Which of those countries did the USA invade? Al Qaeda were pissed off that US forces were all up in their land, and had assisted in the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, in which thousands of innocents were slaughtered.
 
Joe Steinberg said:
Invade what part of the world? Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia, and the terrorists involved were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Lebanon. Which of those countries did the USA invade? Al Qaeda were pissed off that US forces were all up in their land, and had assisted in the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, in which thousands of innocents were slaughtered.
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Look,there are loads of weird sides to both stories and both valid points.But I can't trust both theories 100% because both have their flaws.
 
Lamberto said:
No one knew about the 9/11 signs before it happened,the Illuminati weren't gonna do the same thing twice...
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So you're saying that the illuminati deliberately put signs of an attack out there, but when they realised people saw the signs, they aborted the plan. Seems a bit strange.
 
Lamberto said:
Look,there are loads of weird sides to both stories and both valid points.But I can't trust both theories 100% because both have their flaws.
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Nope, there are no flaws to my argument. US pissed off Al Qaeda and killed many innocents in their countries, Al Qaeda killed innocents in US in response.
 
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