Man Utd flotation?

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We know. FSG didn't pay enough for Liverpool. They got Liverpool for half the price they should have, not that they are complaining.

Lol I was winding baz up <ok>

Liverpool make nowhere near what United do, hence the different valuations. We also have superior assets right now in almost every sense.
 
Liverpool are now debt free, and we have dramatically reduced the wage bill. Financially we are in very good shape. Things did not look to bad on the pitch last night from where I was sitting either.

Bright times<magic>
 
The £30m "debt" on the Liverpool balance sheet owed to UKSV/FSG is really equity by another name (it attracts no interest)

We are in debt to our self<ok>
 
Thats actually correct. However some people wouldn't necessarily call it ''Debt'' From what I've heard Liverpool call it a ''transfer overdraft facility'' and have been using it for a couple of years, and if its a ''debt'' as such its normal and quite regular.

The ''Stadium debt'' was wiped off when Liverpool made losses of £49 million a little while back, the figure was £35 million. The remaining £14 million was used to pay severance pay to staff ie Woy. That figure however didn't include the £25 million a season deal with Warrior Sports.
 
Do you guys trust FSG by the way?

Like do you know everything you need to know? Who are the members for example?

If so what makes you trust them and do you have any concerns over them considering the last bunch of cowboys you had?

I have read one page on the worst forum on the internet and it seems they are either paranoid to **** or are genuinely concerned. You know which forum I mean aswell.
 
Infact that should have its own thread but me starting it will no doubt just cause issues with some posters.

Anyone want to start it or better yet point me towards a thread already in existence.

Thanks.
 
You could say that most of these analysts know much more than the rest of us so its always wise to read their thoughts because if the IPO doesn't go to plan then you wont be surprised. When the Facebook IPO happened, quite a few analysts said it would end in failure and we all know what happened after that.

The club was meant to put the class A shares up for sale at $16 to $20 per share but after speaking to some high profile investors, some said they would be reluctant to buy at that price but would be willing to buy at a reduced offer. This is what happened then and then the IPO was over subscribed meaning the shares were bought. I reckon that if the Glazers stuck to the plan and sold them at the original price then they wont have sold all the shares so the Glazers took the sensible decision and reduced the share price as they wont want people to think the start of the IPO was not a success.

Reducing the share price won't come without some bad news. The club expected to raise $333 million with the initial price share but after reducing the price, they will raise roughly $233 million.

Or,

Punters don't want to buy cheap shares that give them no say/vote in club affairs and dont want to put around 70% of their investment into the Glazers bank account.
 
2. I'm more interested to se if they get it away and what price it is than anything.

In English please?

No offence to the none idiots btw.

So you are offending yourself?

50% goes to the Glazers' pockets

47% goes to paying the Glazers' debts

3% goes to the club

Hope they don't spend that stonking $3M in one shop now!

considering it lowers our debt and interest then it is beneficial to the club.

And then they take another loan out on the club...

where did you see that it was oversold?

In his child like imagination. Haven't you grasped that he just makes **** up to support his opinion, he doesn't have a clue what any real facts are, he just makes his own up... This is why the other manc fans think he is a dick <ok>
 
They're doing okay, they didn't buy us with a leveraged buyout which is the one thing none of us wanted. As for the ''debt'' I think an earlier poster is correct and it is the over-draft facility. FSG loaned themselves £30 million, which means it does carry no interest. In other words, Liverpool are debt free.
 
Or,

Punters don't want to buy cheap shares that give them no say/vote in club affairs and dont want to put around 70% of their investment into the Glazers bank account.

But the fact is that the IPO was sold out/over subscribed.
 
In English please?



So you are offending yourself?



Hope they don't spend that stonking $3M in one shop now!



And then they take another loan out on the club...



In his child like imagination. Haven't you grasped that he just makes **** up to support his opinion, he doesn't have a clue what any real facts are, he just makes his own up... This is why the other manc fans think he is a dick <ok>

ouch...

I wont even waste my time embarrassing you again. Its cruel.
 
Who's to say the price of those shares isn't going to rise? The $14 is only the SP.

We got off on the wrong foot today but you are a fairly decent well rounded poster.

Still a **** though, naturally <ok>

nothing to do with that post in the quote btw, just an opinion. Dont expect me to agree with you though on things <laugh>
 
Do you guys trust FSG by the way?

Like do you know everything you need to know? Who are the members for example?

If so what makes you trust them and do you have any concerns over them considering the last bunch of cowboys you had?.

1. Yes

2. Don't care

3. They have cleared debt and invested. Mere days after the cowboys got in, they exposed themselves as liars, by putting their debt on the club. A few months in we know they had no money, hated each other, and were so full of ****, it would have been laughable, if it wasn't happening to us.

On the other hand, I've not seen your ginger froggy owners doing anything to grow the business, they just appear to be shuffling money around the club, much like the three cups game. You are all trying to watch the cup with the money under it, but I think you will find that one day, they will have run away and there will be no money under any cup.
 
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