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Robert Koren

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hull City AFC (HCHKR), Jul 19, 2012.

  1. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Matty Fryatt is great.

    He'll top last season's tally since he'll have a strike partner this year.

    You heard it here first...
     
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  2. GLP

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    If Fryatt was a bit quicker, he'd be playing in the Premier league, no doubt. He's got everything else in his locker. Chance to conversion rate needs to improve though, I sometimes think he tries too hard to score the 'perfect' goal.
     
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  3. islandtiger

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    Thought this thread was about Robbie K
     
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  4. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    If Brian and co need to watch Koren to see if he's any good,well ....
     
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  5. TayLorTiGer

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    He should bring him some soup, as he's ill.....
     
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  6. Kempton

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    Unless he's here to sign him <grr>
     
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  7. PLT

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    Have to mention it now you've brought it up but that's another thing. It's really cooly to criticise Cullen for being offside all the time, but Fryatt is offside more than any striker I've seen at City and not even when he's making runs. Sometimes he'll receieve the ball with his back to goal near the halfway line and somehow manage to be offside in doing so. It's either stupidity or laziness, either way it pisses me off, especially when everyone ignores it but then uses offsides as a reason to say Cullen is ****.
     
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  8. TayLorTiGer

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    I've noticed that, the opposition goalkeeper will pick up the ball to kick it, and Fryatt just stands next to him whilst the defence push up, it must be laziness sometimes because he makes no effort to run back, but when he gets back into position his movement is quality when trying to receive the ball, he must be like Yakubu when playing as a lone striker, Cullen however must be stupid as he regularly gets offside and is none the wiser
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Matty Fryatt 104 league goals.

    Mark Cullen 1 league goal.

    Matty Fryatt league strike rate, one in three.

    Mark Cullen league strike rate, one in twenty eight.

    That might have something to do with the relevant players reputations.

    You often talk sense, but for some reason, when it comes to Matty Fryatt, you talk complete and utter bollocks.
     
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  10. westhulltiger

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    Is Matty playing 2nite?
     
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  11. roseniorhisgranisfromhull

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    No, I think Stewart and Proschwitz are our front 2, or Proschwitz playing as lone striker.
     
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  12. PLT

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    I wasn't talking about the relative goalscoring prowess of the two players. I'm pointing out the massive double standard between two players. People are willing to write off a youngster solely on the basis that he mistimes runs, but our primary first team striker is much worse for offsides (because many of his are so unecessary) and people ignore it. You must see the point I'm making?
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    I know exactly what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that the reason people's opinions on the two differ, is because one scores lots of goals and the other doesn't score any.
     
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    I'm going to get shot down for this but we all know it's true... Mark Cullen must be caught offside at least 4 times in 20 minutes every game he comes on. And he hasn't got any better!
     
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  15. Murdoc

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    I can't stand Cullen. I know he's only young. But he's so frustrating when he comes on. Bad positioning. No goals. The whole shabazz!
     
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  16. PLT

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    ...see what I mean?
     
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  17. tigerscar

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    Cullen is League Two at best IMO. Never seen anything from him to suggest otherwise.
     
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  18. RicardoHCAFC

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    That kind of clause does exist, but based on media coverage of them they're very rare. I've not heard of anyone having one written that way for years, and when it did used to come up it tended to be younger players who had them as a legitimate way of finding out what they could be earning at other clubs to then renegotiate their contracts having signed as unknowns.

    In terms of our squad (for illustration) someone like Chester is probably on peanuts compared to other defenders of a similar standard in the division because he was unknown when we signed him. We signed him for about £300k, so he could theoretically have one for £1M on the basis that when a club is prepared to pay that much for him he'd want to know how much they'd be prepared to pay him so he knew what to ask for from us.

    I can't see Koren having one written like that because there'd be no reason for it, and I think in general they're becoming rarer and rarer now that even youth team players are being signed up by agents. There's no point to the clause if you've already got an agent who represents dozens of players as they'll know the wage value to be paid for a player worth £x in transfer fee.

    In terms of a potential replacement for Koren, if Buzsaky was the one brought in we could play Buzsaky and Cairney together in central midfield without being over run. In QPR's promotion season there were times when playing a 4231 (like we did last season under Barmby) the two holding midfielders were Buzsaky and Faurlin, and Faurlin is a similar kind of player to Cairney (it was usually Derry and Faurlin in the holding roles with Faurlin obviously the deep lying creative player of the two).
     
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  19. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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  20. islandtiger

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    good to see thread returning to Robbie K ---looks like he is staying---shows he is not just about money--poor old lesta
     
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