A sensible post from a scouser re AC

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it seems LFC have completely lost control of the situation now.

a discussion has occurred where carrol's been told he's not wanted and it seems that andy and his agent have taken this as proof if needed that all loyatly bonuses will be paid.. they are now freely talking and putting it all on rodgers and the club.

Newcastle are chatting away about getting him but have no intent on paying what we want.

Reality time.... comolli and kenny were sacked and so was our medical director and it all probably stems back to this deal.. he should never have been bought with a serious injury day one and the fee was ridiculous. we are not going to get 20mil for him cos we've now made it clear that he's not wanted so anyone bidding has the power. the only thing that can recoup 20mil is a bidding war which is never going to occur.

Rodgers has every right to shove him out the door and any other player he wants to as well. hes the new manager and will stand or fall over such decisions so has the right to make them. He's made his mind up over Carroll without even meeting him so it can only be the fact that he doesn't fancy him as a player and how he works on the pitch. we took in 50mil for torres, gave newcastle 35mil and so we took in 15mil profit. if we take in 15-20mil for carroll then effectively we'll have given our windfall to newcastle we will have say 30-35mil off of torres which is market value while newkie build a whole side of our collective idiocy.

In the end the only possible positive that can be taken is FSG got real having seen the goings on and decided to get rid of everyone they didn't rate, which is their right. I will judge them on thier appointments NOW. I'm forgiving them for mistakes when they first arrived but do feel kenny was quite hard done by. Their current set of decisions will decide if they turn us into no hopers or a top club.... If rodgers has the balls to say that carroll won't fit in then he's got to at least have a clue as to how he wants to play and who he wants. Only time will tell again if he's also a waster or right.

The whole thing is ridiculous as we paid for newcastle to build an entire team while we wasted all the moeny spent and right now or very best prospects are young players signed by rafa and 4-5 senior rafa men left. (reina, agger, skertl, agger, johnson) Hodgson was a comeplte waste of years and kenny's 18months looks to be leaving perhaps, only henderson and suarez.

its amazing to me that despite this sage we can potentially throw a first 11 and bench together that will scare the rest... will we be smarter in the future and find proper players like newcastle or will we just keep wasting cash?

Reina
johnson skertl agger enrique
Gerrard Lucas Adam
Borini Suarez Cole/bellamy/downing

our bench could be:

jones henderson, kelly, two of Cole/bellamy/downing, shelvey, carragher....

our wunderkinds are: wisdom, robinson, suso, sterling, ibe, teixiera, n'goo, morgan.

if we can't get our players to work as hard or harder than the opposition and maybe even add one or two more to that squad its all a cod.


I actually feel a bit sorry for them..... Only a bit mind

 

I don't really think Rodgers cares about what Andy Carroll goes for, he seemingly doesn't rate him enough to even try him out in his new system. In that regard, if we really really HAVE to sign him, then I advocate just waiting and pushing their buttons until we get him for closer to 7 Million, which I think he's actually worth.

It's interesting the Scousers have discounted Cole and that Pug faced Aquiliani chap, they probably fit better into the Rodgers system than Henderson and Adam

 

i agree with this, make them wait and as its clear Rodgers want's rid of him we should be able to come in with a lower offer later on and force their hand. Can't see anyone else linked with him paying the price LFC are after!

 

Cole is ****e, that's a fair reason.

We all want to see Aqua play, he's been used and abused really... But he might not even want to be here, that's the issue. He's seriously talented.

 

Cole probably got more assists and goals by simply being on the bench in France than Downing did all season! Even at his age and with his declining pace, he's more technically gifted than most English players and could well be a decent stop gap til you sign Joe.A from Swansea.

 

Don't think he's the fitness or the legs any more.

Save the top 3 or so sides, Ligue 1 is pretty poor as well. Lille benched him for a fair part of the season after a good start... Just don't see him ever living up to his billing.

 

I think you'll see a different Joe Cole this year after his hugely successful time in France and a system and manager likely to bring out the best in him. He did have a few sub appearances but he was very much first team for the majoirty of the season making no less than 31 league appearances. You have to remember who he was competing with for a starting spot too, fans favourite and all round superstar Hazard, and big money signing from St Etiennes Dimitri Payet (9m - big money in French terms) They also know each very well from their Chelsea days so he knows exactly how to get the best from him. Aquilani is also very much a Rodgers type player. I've just never been completely convinced the lad wants to be there.

Joe Cole is very keen to do well at Liverpool. I watched an interview where he made it quite clear he doesn't want his time at Liverpool to be the only failure on his CV. I still rate him and think he may still ahve something to offer in the right system.

 

A good article.

 

He isn't though. He holds onto the ball far too long, he has no pace and he can be seen bending over taking deep breaths after 10 minutes of a game.