Ask Princess - July 2012

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PN, the dam of Nathaniel and Great Heavens. Has she given birth to any foals since Great Heavens? Who is(are) the foal(s) by?
 
A seller means that the winner of the race is offered for sale at an auction after the race. If no one wants to buy the horse you get to keep him, if someone else enters the bidding you will have to keep the bidding going to make sure you retain the horse.

A claimer means that all horses running in the race are up for "claim". The connections set a price that the horse is on offer for and the horses are weighted in the race accordingly, so the top weight will be the most expensive to claim. There is usually a ceiling price depending on the race, ie no horse can be put in for more than £15,000.


Magnificient Style is the dam of 10 winners from 10 runners.
She does not have a two year old, she was barren to Oasis Dream.
She has a yearling colt by Oasis Dream called THRONE ROOM
She has a filly foal by Oasis Dream called WILLOUGHBY
She was covered this year by Fastnet Rock
 
After some research here is a random selection of top class fillies and their later produce records:

SOVIET SONG – 5 time G1 winner, to stud 2007

2008 – barren to Galileo
2009 – SOVIET DREAM (Oasis Dream) unraced
2010 – early abortion to Raven’s Pass
2011 – barren to Oasis Dream
2012 – barren to Oasis Dream


OUIJA BOARD – 7 time G1 winner, to stud 2007

2008 – VOODOO PRINCE (Kingmambo) 1 win from 5 starts
2009 – AEGAEUS (Monsun) 0 wins from 3 starts
2010 – FILIA REGINA (Galileo) unraced
2011 – colt by Galileo
2012 – due to Dubawi


BANKS HILL – 3 time G1 winner, to stud 2003

2004 – OPTIONAL EXTRA (Kingmambo) unraced
2005 – IDEAL WORLD (Kingmambo) 4 wins (2 Listed) from 11 starts
2006 – TROJAN QUEEN (Empire Maker) 0 wins from 5 starts
2007 – barren
2008 – colt by Giant’s Causeway, unraced
2009 – ROMANTICA (Galileo) 1 win from 3 starts, G3 placed
2010 – DUMFRIESSHIRE (Oasis Dream) unraced


ISLINGTON – 4 time G1 winner, to stud 2004

2005 – LONDON BID (Rainbow Quest) 0 wins from 2 starts
2006 – ISLA CANELA (Gone West) 1 win from 4 starts
2007 – barren to unknown US stallion
2008 – barren to Kingmambo
2009 – STAR RATING (Dansili) unraced
2010 – BOHEMIAN DANCE (Dansili) unraced
2011 – filly by Dansili


RUSSIAN RHYTHM – 4 time G1 winner, to stud 2005

2006 – BARYNYA (Pivotal) 0 wins from 3 starts
2007 – SAFINA (Pivotal) 1 win from 4 starts
2008 – ZYKINA (Pivotal) unraced
2009 – barren to Oasis Dream
2010 – RUSSIAN REALM (Dansili)
2011 – slipped foal by Oasis Dream


OH SO SHARP – 3 time G1 winner (possibly 4 time, not sure if Fillies Mile was a G1 in 1984), to stud 1986

1987 – BEN ALISKY (Dunbeath) 1 win from 7 starts
1988 – SHAIMA (Shareef Dancer) 3 wins from 11 starts, G2 winner
1989 – ROSEFINCH (Blushing Groom) 2 wins from 7 starts, G1 winner
1990 – Devils Needle (Nureyev) unraced
1991 – filly by Danzig, unraced
1992 – FELITZA (Soviet Star) 2 wins from 3 starts
1993 – SACHO (Sadler’s Wells) 1 win from 11 starts, G3 placed
1994 – SHARPWITTED (Sadler’s Wells) 0 wins from 3 starts
1995 – OUTSPOKEN (Arazi) 4 wins from 15 starts
1996 – barren to Machiavellian
1997 – SAVOIRE VIVRE (Sadler’s Wells) 1 win from 3 starts. At stud in Australia
1998 – barren to Rainbow Quest
1999 – slipped foal by Silver Hawk
2000 – barren to Danehill
2001 – SUSSEX (Danehill) 0 wins from 1 start. At stud in India
Died 2001


PEBBLES – 5 time G1 winner, to stud 1987

1988 – PECHENGA (Nureyev) 1 win from 4 starts
1989 – PEBBLE CREEK (Reference Point) unraced
1990 – colt by Sadler’s Wells, unraced
1991 – PEBBLE POWDER (Nashwan) unraced
1992 – colt by Polish Precedent, unraced
1993 – KEBILI (Green Desert), unraced
1994 – Clarecastle (Caerleon) 0 wins from 4 starts
1995 – PERLA DI SASSO (Caerleon) 0 wins from 2 starts
1996 – not covered in 1995, sent to Japan
1997 – LEELOO (Dr Devious) unraced
1998 – SHADAI STONE (Real Shadai) unraced
1999 – no records found
2000 – SENLIS (Real Shadai) 7 wins from 37 starts
2001 – SEIUN MADONNA (Jade Robbery) unraced
Retired 2002, died 2005

As you can see, being a multiple G1 winning filly appears to be the kiss of death for her progeny. Things do not bode well for GOLDIKOVA and ZARKAVA!

This has got me thinking about some other great fillies:

Noblesse
Petite Étoile
Meld
Bella Paola
Danseuse Étoile
Allez France
Jacinth
Soba
Silk Slippers (Lovely 2yo never seen after)
Cherry Hinton

There must be others; these are just off the top of my head.
 
Personal Ensign was probably one of the few exceptions: one of the best American dirt mares in history and a very good broodmare. Miesque also produced top offspring.

I'm watching the development of the Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta colts with a great deal of interest, and can't wait to see Zarkava's filly on the track.

Princess, I had a look at that book on Amazon but it looks rather long. Could you please recommend a good book for someone with a budding interest in breeding?
 
Another contender for best named two year old of the year:

HATTIE JACQUES - filly by Sixties Icon out of Funny Girl

<rofl>
 
What do you think of Herbalist tomorrow 7.30 Salisbury. He's by your boy out of a Kris mare. Looks as though he had a gentle introduction, having dwelt at the start, and only beaten 4¼L. Will he be suited by the ground? Poor bugger has been gelded though; don't know if that was before he went on a race track. Presume they didn't think too highly of him to do that.
 
Haafhd's generally seem to like a bit of cut, like their dad. Salisbury is one of those tracks where most maiden races tend to be of good quality. Sometimes gelding is the only way to get a colt to the racecourse. George Washington's brother WYETH was reportedly gelded because his testicles were so large that he was in constant discomfort.

[waits for someone to claim they have the same problem ;)]
 
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I wonder how much they weigh. Might be worth a length.
 
Haafhd's generally seem to like a bit of cut, like their dad. Salisbury is one of those tracks where most maiden races tend to be of good quality. Sometimes gelding is the only way to get a colt to the racecourse. George Washington's brother WYETH was reportedly gelded because his testicles were so large that he was in constant discomfort.

[waits for someone to claim they have the same problem ;)]


<laugh> .
 
I'm just back from a wonderful morning out on the Newmarket gallops. Today was our visit to Warren Place and we spent half an hour or so on the Warren Hill gallop with Sir Henry, watching 4th lot do some routine canters, including Beauty Parlor and Morpheus, Frankel's 2yo half-brother.

Sadly Sir Henry has lost his voice but we were lucky enough to be talked through everything by Lord Grimthorpe, Juddmonte's racing manager.

At the start of the morning we were told that we would not see Frankel as they were keeping him under wraps and giving him peace and quiet before next week. It was a tad disappointing but not unexpected.

We had a tour of the yard, and saw several horses including Twice Over and got a close up look at Morpheus - a very impressive looking individual. I was struck by how laid back the horses all were, we walked through a barn where every head over the door was inquisitive but well mannered: imagine my surprise when I discovered it was the 2yo colts barn!

As we headed back to our bus we passed a small barn with windows that looked out over the yard. And there he was! They had moved Frankel from his regular box (security issues) to one where we could see him, albeit only his head. Sadly we were not allowed to take pictures during the visit, but nonetheless, it was a wonderful morning.

Roll on next Wednesday!
 
Hello PN, sounds good does that! Speaking of Juddemonte can you tell me if a colt at John Gosden's out of Light Jig (by Speightstown) has a name yet? It's a 2yo.
 
GGW, he's been called SEEK AGAIN.

One of the 2yo colts we saw at Warren Place was called RETIREMENT PLAN, out of Passage of Time. Lovely name, and a very sweet individual.
 
Ok, so I may have fibbed to you a tiny bit abuot not having any photos :biggrin:

I did manage to get a couple - well other people were taking them so I thought I might as well too! I've heavily cropped one of them so that there are no identifying features regarding the box he was stabled in when we saw him (it was not his usual box anyway). I'll leave it up here for a bit and will probably take it down tomorrow.

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I love that he has shavings in his forelock, he probably had a darn good roll in the new stable!
 
PN, The Fugue has a full brother who i think is now a 2yo. Are you able to tell us more?