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How you plums can show your faces here is unreal, your best players are leaving and you've bought average as usual, enjoy your battle with Liverpool...for the worst team in red, wake up you pair of tossers. <doh>
 
I was, yet again, listening to Talk5hite this evening and it was absolutely beautiful! They were doing a phone-in for Gooners to express their views regarding RVP's announcement that he believes AFC to be absolute ****e, and how he wants to leave to win things. Some of them were so bitter, they would have made lemons taste sweet! I thought one caller was going to hang himself on air. it was superb!

I've been waiting for this moment for two years. We all knew AFC has been a spent force for years, now. And whilst their fans will bleat on about how we blew a 10 point lead last season, the few intelligent ones will know that we've been steadily improving on them for several seasons, and that it's only a matter of time before we leave them in our wake. RVP played a blinder for them last season, to such an extent that there's no way he'll have another season like that. Even if he'd stayed, I doubt he'd have been as effective for them, but the fact that he's leaving, in the wake of Naz & Fab and so many others is a major dent to their arrogance, and a real slap across their smug faces.

Who's going to predict that they'll finish top 4 next season? I'm certainly not.

Bye bye Arsenal, and good riddance!

One question, though. As there are no other teams in North London, will Enfield Town become our closes rivals, locally?
 
Van Persie's going. Ah well, that's life. Players come, players go. That is how football is.

Needless to say, he will be a massive loss and the reason why I talk like he's already gone is because:

1) his full statement says that Arsenal are not ambitious enough. That's fair enough. He's been sold the same rubbish each year and he now realises that we are a profit club and that there is no enterprise or platform for the club to build on. The owners don't really care about Arsenal's on field success. And if the owners and CEO don't give a stuff, why should Robin?

2) I think there would be some hostility from the crowd at matches for him not signing a new contract. There would be mixed reactions and it would unsettle him.

3) He's meant to be our club captain. What kind of mess would it be if we keep him? It would show our best player and captain of Arsenal Football Club has no desire to pursue his career at Arsenal and it would be too risky. For the Netherlands for example, when the fans get on his back, he loses confidence. That could just as well happen at Arsenal. Crowd pressure and chanting can be a detriment to a player's performances.

I've always maintained that things at Arsenal will get worse before they get better, if we have the same people in charge and I stick by that. Until we drop out of the CL places, the CEO and Hill-Wood won't fully understand the true extent of us covering up cracks season by season by scraping in the Champions League places and getting Champions League revenue.

Even with Giroud and Podolski, can you honestly say they are good enough to compete for titles??

I said that if we kept RvP and signed another midfielder or two (as well as having Giroud and Podolski), then we'd perhaps be able to compete (I say ''perhaps'' because I still think Wenger is part of the problem at Arsenal) - sadly it looks like another false dawn and if we make no more signings (which is still probable) then it looks like we're aspiring for finishing in the CL spots again with no silverware.

And I worry that when other players notice this common theme, they will start to question our plans for success - if we have any at all.

The only good news is that Robin has mentioned it early and so it gives us enough time to look for more additions to the squad. Better for him to mention it now rather than in late August.

<ok>

Level-headed as always Ammaar.

I have to say that you have done remarkably well to get Podolski and Giroud in early, even without Van Persie these two on paper could potentially be one of the top strike pairings in the league. You will miss Van Persie obviously, but with these two on board you probably have much more reliable forward options, rather than just pinning all your hopes on one player.

If I were Arsenal i'd cash in on RVP this summer and work on strengthening your midfield, that is the true weakness of your side. Your team without RVP but with 2 good strikers and a more talented midfield ought to be stronger than your team was last year with RVP. The team below is arguably much stronger than the team you started last season with, before RVP decided to up his gear.

....................Giroud
Podolski........................Walcott/Oxo
..............Wilshere Arteta
.....................Song
Santos Vermaelen Koscielny Sagna
..................Szcz&#281;sny
 
If you mean stadium debt, then not much. The stadium debt is ringfenced and we're paying it off at a rate of £20m per year. So it does beg the question: where is the rest of the income going if it not's going toward transfers? Also, we have £200m in cash reserves and we make a profit every year, so it's a total myth that we have a ''lack of money.''

We're just not spending it wisely.



WY <ok>

Of course it's nice to get in two players early, but recently Wenger had said we would try to keep Robin at all costs yet the next day, Robin confirms he won't be signing the new contract because he disagrees with how Arsenal should make a step forward. So did Wenger already know previously that these two players would account for Robin's likely absence, did he pin his hopes on Robin stay loyal to the cause due to us sticking by him and his injury problems or did he just make those comments to appease the fans?

As I said on another thread, it's disappointing that yet again we have failed to keep our top players. And Robin wasn't just our top goalscorer, he was our most creative player. He is also the last player to win a trophy in an Arsenal shirt, so none of the current players (if Robin leaves) have won silverware in England, although some of them have won trophies in other leagues and I hope their winning mentality proliferates through to the rest of the players.

Baring in mind that Song and Theo also have one year left on their current deals, and Koscielny also has one year left after next season and nothing appears to be getting done, things aren't looking too rosy.


Your problem has been the same for some time now, IMO. Balance - it's a problem that we suffered from for too long , also. Wenger, just can't, or won't, see that you can't fill a team with Fabregas, Nasri, wishere, Ramsay, etc and then have a defence that is full of holes, plus a strike force of one man who was often injured. The number of times that you would give away leads, leak embarrassing goals was a source of much delight, and amusement for us Spurs fans.

Ironically enough, the foundations of what was probably your best balanced side, was inherited by Wenger. You may be too young to remember, but the old Arsenal back 4 Adams, Keown, Dixon, etc were as reliable as clockwork. To that Wenger added Vieira and Petit, as cover in front of what was already a reliable defence, anyway. He then added the likes of Bergkamp and Overmars up front. The result was a side that was as solid defensively as any I've ever seen, and yet still carried a potent threat going forward. Somehow, Wenger lost sight of the importance of that balance. Until you get it back, you may continue to struggle to improve your position that much.
 
Who's going to predict that they'll finish top 4 next season? I'm certainly not.

Bye bye Arsenal, and good riddance!

Well considering your predictions for the previous season, that does assure me. <laugh>

We should be good for 2nd or 3rd then.
 
Considering how close the margin was for 3rd/4th last season it was just our luck that RVP happened to play more matches that season for AFC than in any previous season! I remember waiting in expectation for the usual injury that never happened. I don't think even the most loyal AFC supporter would suggest they would have got 3rd without him. Just add it to the (long) list of things that went against us! I'm not sure how I'd feel if I was them. On one hand he has really left them in the lurch in the manner of announcement, on the other eight seasons is probably way above average from what you could expect of a modern footballer. Also (and I've some sympathy with them here), it's very strange reading to hear that he's got an opinion (and apparently expected consultation) on the future strategy of the club... you might argue what has it got to do with him? Player power gone mad.
 
He made 38 starts last season, before that he made 111 in 7 years.

As funny as it is to see Arsenal players desert them, its another example of a greedy footballer being a total ****er.
 
He made 38 starts last season, before that he made 111 in 7 years.

As funny as it is to see Arsenal players desert them, its another example of a greedy footballer being a total ****er.

Agree. Especially as they stood by him when he was accused of Rape a while back. No loyalty these days. Apparently they have offered him £130k pw, so it's not like he would have starved if he had stayed on.
 
I was, yet again, listening to Talk5hite this evening and it was absolutely beautiful! They were doing a phone-in for Gooners to express their views regarding RVP's announcement that he believes AFC to be absolute ****e, and how he wants to leave to win things. Some of them were so bitter, they would have made lemons taste sweet! I thought one caller was going to hang himself on air. it was superb!

I've been waiting for this moment for two years. We all knew AFC has been a spent force for years, now. And whilst their fans will bleat on about how we blew a 10 point lead last season, the few intelligent ones will know that we've been steadily improving on them for several seasons, and that it's only a matter of time before we leave them in our wake. RVP played a blinder for them last season, to such an extent that there's no way he'll have another season like that. Even if he'd stayed, I doubt he'd have been as effective for them, but the fact that he's leaving, in the wake of Naz & Fab and so many others is a major dent to their arrogance, and a real slap across their smug faces.

Who's going to predict that they'll finish top 4 next season? I'm certainly not.

Bye bye Arsenal, and good riddance!

One question, though. As there are no other teams in North London, will Enfield Town become our closes rivals, locally?

And you say your not obsessed about Arsenal <doh> your post will make a great sig for next season especially because you predicted something similar last season and was embarrassed badly <whistle>
 
After the initial "yay, they're losing their best player" feeling i actually feel quite sorry for Arsenal fans now. As Spurs fans we all know what it feels like when your best players do this, and it isn't nice.
RvP was not-a-lot when he started at Arsenal and then spent the best part of 5-6 years being injured. Arsenal stuck by him, the fans stuck by him, and he eventually became their talisman and captain. How does he repay them? By pissing on them.
What an utter ****er.
 
And you say your not obsessed about Arsenal <doh> your post will make a great sig for next season especially because you predicted something similar last season and was embarrassed badly <whistle>

You don't need to be obsessed to have a view on RvP handing in his notice. It is actually quite a big story.
 
...and the meltdown begins

This was linked to another site, dunno if it's been posted elsewhere on not606, made me smile....HiaG will love this

[video=youtube;My7hevrK6G8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7hevrK6G8&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
He made 38 starts last season, before that he made 111 in 7 years.

As funny as it is to see Arsenal players desert them, its another example of a greedy footballer being a total ****er.

To be fair to him, King. He's given Arsenal 8 years - 7 of those winning nothing. Maybe at 28 he genuinely feels that his chances of bagging silverware before he retires, are better elsewhere. I mean if you were ambitious to win major trophies, could you see it happening at Arsenal anytime
soon?
 
...and the meltdown begins

This was linked to another site, dunno if it's been posted elsewhere on not606, made me smile....HiaG will love this

[video=youtube;My7hevrK6G8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7hevrK6G8&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Holy ****. What was that?
What was he discarding?
 
You don't need to be obsessed to have a view on RvP handing in his notice. It is actually quite a big story.

He said he was waiting for it for 2 years, that strikes me as very obsessed especially considering that it is not news even related to his club