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Australia is the same. There are jobs there, but no one will do them. They all feel they should be getting paid a fortune, right now, without working for it. I havent met an Australian taxi driver in years (By that I mean a Caucasian one many generations an Aussie). Kids of today have been spoon fed **** since they were young, getting the lastest and greatest gadgets, clothes, holidays etc, and they want to continue that life without working for it. Sure, there are people who desperatly want to get a job and support themselves, but so many people I see just say '**** it', why work for it when they are going to give it you anyways? Pisses me off. We need to stop handing out **** and getting people working for it.

Bring on the zombie apocalypse i say, and lets all just fend for ourselves. Would be a **** load easier. Minus the constant threat of being eaten.

Never having been to Aus, who drives the taxis then?
 
WTF?

Thatch got the boot in 1991. The current mess started in 2007. If you want someone to blame, blame Gordon Brown. It wasn't his fault that the banking crisis started, but he'd had ten years of economic good times, but when we needed some of the cash he'd taken in it turned out that not only had he spent it, but he'd borrowed more on top and kept a load "off-balance sheet" via the PFI.

You might as well blame Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent...


They removed all government control of banking, which was a first, and gave them a free hand to direct financial services as the banks and insurance companies decided. World global finance began in proper with a free for all market driven economy.
 
They removed all government control of banking, which was a first, and gave them a free hand to direct financial services as the banks and insurance companies decided. World global finance began in proper with a free for all market driven economy.

Aye & they sold all the non profit making nationalised utilty companies that we already owned to us, conned or what?
Although I guess some made a killing, pre to that there was no share holding ****ers to please & thus costs were kept down.

Hardly a single one is even British owned now. I couldn't give a **** if Thatcher croaks tonight. <ok>
 
Alot of Afghanis, Iraqis, Ethiopians, and Sudenese. Nothing against being a taxi driver, I would do it if I had to. Just seems that Aussies refuse to do it. I only refer to this profession because I use cabs alot, and never see an aussie in there.

Didn't realise Aus was becoming so slack with it's asylum policy.
If you don't watch it, you'll end up like Britain.

****ed.
 
Didn't realise Aus was becoming so slack with it's asylum policy.
If you don't watch it, you'll end up like Britain.

****ed.

Already is mate. We get people come from these countries on boats via Indonesia/Malaysia, and rock up on our shores demanding asylum. If you google "Christmas Island Riots" you'll get a few instances where these people have burnt down their immigration centers on an island north west of Oz, while they get processed. Half of them don't speak english, dont want to learn english, and are trying to bring Sharia Law down to Oz. Yet we keep letting them in. Australia is now the place to go due to it being so lax. However, say yourself or a lad wanting to come down here with his family to start a life (one who has a trade, wont rely on hand outs)... we wont let him, or you - in. It's ****ed. And if they do let you in, you are made to jump through a **** load of hoops to get here.

I agree with immigration. Oz was built on multi-cultural blood, sweat, and tears. But we seem to be letting the wrong ones in. Australian politicians need to wake up and grow some balls. Or this country will be ****ed.
 
Already is mate. We get people come from these countries on boats via Indonesia/Malaysia, and rock up on our shores demanding asylum. If you google "Christmas Island Riots" you'll get a few instances where these people have burnt down their immigration centers on an island north west of Oz, while they get processed. Half of them don't speak english, dont want to learn english, and are trying to bring Sharia Law down to Oz. Yet we keep letting them in. Australia is now the place to go due to it being so lax. However, say yourself or a lad wanting to come down here with his family to start a life (one who has a trade, wont rely on hand outs)... we wont let him, or you - in. It's ****ed. And if they do let you in, you are made to jump through a **** load of hoops to get here.

I agree with immigration. Oz was built on multi-cultural blood, sweat, and tears. But we seem to be letting the wrong ones in. Australian politicians need to wake up and grow some balls. Or this country will be ****ed.

Why dont they just send out the navy & ****them off?

It's not as if you're tied to that ****ehole EU that we are.
 
Why dont they just send out the navy & ****them off?

It's not as if you're tied to that ****ehole EU that we are.

Because of all these hippies in our parliament. The old prime-minister, John Howard (who was awesome) just told them to **** off. If you come down here, you aren't getting in. So they didn't really try. Some figures are that supposedly in the first 6 months of last year, more people came down to Oz on a boat than did during the final 5 years of his term. This ranga bitch we have at the moment needs to go.

And i dunno what it's like in the UK with young people and voting, but over here they don't have a clue. They rock up and say the slogan "Go the Greens!" and vote for them. Which is veeeery bad. Greens are socialists/communist, more worried about protecting trees than people of Oz. The main Greens fella, Bob Brown just stood down, because he said something in a speech about how there are people on other planets, but they have 'extincted' (his word) themselves, as they would have been in contact with him if they were still alive. And this is why it is important to protect the trees, as we will 'extinct' ourselves aswell. Bunch of ****in nutters down here like.
 
Because of all these hippies in our parliament. The old prime-minister, John Howard (who was awesome) just told them to **** off. If you come down here, you aren't getting in. So they didn't really try. Some figures are that supposedly in the first 6 months of last year, more people came down to Oz on a boat than did during the final 5 years of his term. This ranga bitch we have at the moment needs to go.

And i dunno what it's like in the UK with young people and voting, but over here they don't have a clue. They rock up and say the slogan "Go the Greens!" and vote for them. Which is veeeery bad. Greens are socialists/communist, more worried about protecting trees than people of Oz. The main Greens fella, Bob Brown just stood down, because he said something in a speech about how there are people on other planets, but they have 'extincted' (his word) themselves, as they would have been in contact with him if they were still alive. And this is why it is important to protect the trees, as we will 'extinct' ourselves aswell. Bunch of ****in nutters down here like.

All this amazes me. I thought you were still like the Canadians.

IE, if you've nowt to offer us then **** off. That's the way it should be.

Worst thing Sweden did was join that ****ing corrupt EU. The worst two ****s in Europe to me are that horrible little **** Sarkosy & that fat kraut slag Merkel.

Telling the rest of the EU what they have to do. I wouldn't trust those two slags to walk my dog, they'd knick the lead & charge me for it.

Corrupt bastards.

The EU makes the old Soviet Union look legit. <ok>
 
WTF?

Thatch got the boot in 1991. The current mess started in 2007. If you want someone to blame, blame Gordon Brown. It wasn't his fault that the banking crisis started, but he'd had ten years of economic good times, but when we needed some of the cash he'd taken in it turned out that not only had he spent it, but he'd borrowed more on top and kept a load "off-balance sheet" via the PFI.

You might as well blame Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent...

Why not blame Maggie as well, folks normally do. although for me getting a trade, actually three trades, without O LEVELS , I have no complaints only praise, then again Im not blinkerered. If you want to work , you will, At sixteen hitched to London, first time was a wash out, second time struck lucky. In real life your destiny is in your own hands. Get up and live.....Stay in bed..........................Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sleep. But I wont cry for you. and as for sympathy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,**** OFF.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Not aimed at this response Sid, just a follow up, is all.
 
All this amazes me. I thought you were still like the Canadians.

IE, if you've nowt to offer us then **** off. That's the way it should be.

Worst thing Sweden did was join that ****ing corrupt EU. The worst two ****s in Europe to me are that horrible little **** Sarkosy & that fat kraut slag Merkel.

Telling the rest of the EU what they have to do. I wouldn't trust those two slags to walk my dog, they'd knick the lead & charge me for it.

Corrupt bastards.

The EU makes the old Soviet Union look legit. <ok>

Australia used to be like that. If you can't offer us anything, then **** off we dont want you. But since Labour came in in 2007, it's all gone downhill. They seem to be letting the wrong people in, and use taxpayers to fund them. I wish it was like Canada. 'Cept down here, there is more sun, so it appeals more to the Asians, Arabs, and Africans.

I even saw a thing about a muslim in UK parliament who wanted to get Sharia Law introduced, praise be to Allah, and it is his will it is done. Can you imagine living in a country with strict Muslim laws being shoved down your throat...?
 
enjoyed reading this thread and the opinions, i dont post much but read alot. So i thought i would hoy in my 2 pence or cents so to speak. Wish i knew how to multi quote . oh well.

Ive lived both sides of the pond currently in the us. This is my second spell outside of the UK.

Lived in the Cayman islands for 5/6 years straight out of uni (just wasting time really, beachbum and bartender).
Came back to Sunderland and decided to settle down. WOW what a shock to the system i can tell you. It took me 6 months to find a job, and im by no means fussy, even applied at mcdonalds. Finally i found a job at 2touch call center and took at least 20 hours overtime a week, then my 1st paycheck came. **** ME, after taxes and NI felt like i had enough for a cuppa, match ticket and a pasty. Gutted was not the word. Kept applying for better jobs and night jobs, trying to better my life, took another 6 months before i got a job in KULA's on vine st. Started Bar-tending (well scrubbing **** of the bog ceilings and mopping up puke) 7 nights a week. Grand total of near enough 100 hours a week for a shocking 450 pounds sterling.

So killing myself with work meant i couldn't spend anything except for rent ($45 a week room by the Royalty) , grub, ***s, bus fare and the very occasional match. But i did manage to buy a half decent car in cash after about 6 months, only to be robbed by insurance company. Skint again. But i wasn't wasting 1 to 2 hrs a day on the bus and was convinced i would find a great job soon. I had the car for 3 weeks before some **** keyed it. 6 weeks after that nicked !!!!! ****!!

Did 6 more months of 100 hour weeks saving saving saving saving and applying for jobs and grants. was thinking maybee i needed to go back to uni and get my masters. All the time watching the lazy ****s next door popping out bairns, smoking, drinking all day and night,fighting, music bouncing keeping me up, racially abusing the corner shop owners and robbing all on my taxes. Always in a new pair of trainers, drinking at the bar i worked at, going to the matches i was missing because of work. They live in a 4 bedroom house, me a 10 x 10 box room.

final straw was my house got broken into and the tv i just bought nicked! by the little ****s next door. Police caught him but he had already sold the tv, and cos he was only 14 i got nowt apart from abuse from them next door 3 days missed work and the fact that "JUSTICE " was done........... WTF?

Thats it (5 hours sleep a night, and a run of events that are 2 damn comical) , handed my 2 weeks notice in at both jobs and bought a plane ticket to Toronto and began traveling. Had a great time met the wife, saw alot of the world and decided when the money was all gone we would settle in her home state South Carolina.

Ive not been here long and ive grafted like an idiot 100+ hours a week. Started off living in the Ghetto, couldnt find a decent job, but stuck to my plan of working 2 jobs. open my own business at a flea market and now we live in a nice home with a pool, both have decent cars, a beautiful baby girl, a full time store and 2 seasonal ones and some cash in the bank. In 3 ish years. I never felt i could achieve half of that in the uk NEVER. Still working 100+ hours a week during peak seasons (summer and xmas), but i feel like im working toward something.

You don't have to be "Talented, rich or special " to make it here im not, it helps but hard graft and determination wins every time ( and i have a **** ton). That and the tax is much lower leaving you more dispensable income, which i used to try and build something.

Yes the poor here are very very very poor. Fortunately for me the only reason they are is because they choose to be. They only get unemployment benefits , to the tune of what they put in, when its gone its gone. Housing is paid for directly to the landlord as is power and water. Food is given to them in stamp form, not cash they can blow on beer and ***s (although some sell them). Medical cost are paid for. What they dont get is CASH. Some people need help and they do recieve it, some take advantage, but i dont feel taken advantage of.

I bust my nuts and it goes in my pockets, **** paying for anyone elses beer , ***s and nights out. I miss my family ( never saw them anyway working all the time), footy ( never saw it anyway working), bacon and a proper cup of tea ( think they use badger milk here).

if that disjointed rant has upset anyone , wasn't meant to and my apologies. Ive an immigration review on the 5th june and im ****ting it incase i have to leave ...... any one giz a job if i come back
 
enjoyed reading this thread and the opinions, i dont post much but read alot. So i thought i would hoy in my 2 pence or cents so to speak. Wish i knew how to multi quote . oh well.

Ive lived both sides of the pond currently in the us. This is my second spell outside of the UK.

Lived in the Cayman islands for 5/6 years straight out of uni (just wasting time really, beachbum and bartender).
Came back to Sunderland and decided to settle down. WOW what a shock to the system i can tell you. It took me 6 months to find a job, and im by no means fussy, even applied at mcdonalds. Finally i found a job at 2touch call center and took at least 20 hours overtime a week, then my 1st paycheck came. **** ME, after taxes and NI felt like i had enough for a cuppa, match ticket and a pasty. Gutted was not the word. Kept applying for better jobs and night jobs, trying to better my life, took another 6 months before i got a job in KULA's on vine st. Started Bar-tending (well scrubbing **** of the bog ceilings and mopping up puke) 7 nights a week. Grand total of near enough 100 hours a week for a shocking 450 pounds sterling.

So killing myself with work meant i couldn't spend anything except for rent ($45 a week room by the Royalty) , grub, ***s, bus fare and the very occasional match. But i did manage to buy a half decent car in cash after about 6 months, only to be robbed by insurance company. Skint again. But i wasn't wasting 1 to 2 hrs a day on the bus and was convinced i would find a great job soon. I had the car for 3 weeks before some **** keyed it. 6 weeks after that nicked !!!!! ****!!

Did 6 more months of 100 hour weeks saving saving saving saving and applying for jobs and grants. was thinking maybee i needed to go back to uni and get my masters. All the time watching the lazy ****s next door popping out bairns, smoking, drinking all day and night,fighting, music bouncing keeping me up, racially abusing the corner shop owners and robbing all on my taxes. Always in a new pair of trainers, drinking at the bar i worked at, going to the matches i was missing because of work. They live in a 4 bedroom house, me a 10 x 10 box room.

final straw was my house got broken into and the tv i just bought nicked! by the little ****s next door. Police caught him but he had already sold the tv, and cos he was only 14 i got nowt apart from abuse from them next door 3 days missed work and the fact that "JUSTICE " was done........... WTF?

Thats it (5 hours sleep a night, and a run of events that are 2 damn comical) , handed my 2 weeks notice in at both jobs and bought a plane ticket to Toronto and began traveling. Had a great time met the wife, saw alot of the world and decided when the money was all gone we would settle in her home state South Carolina.

Ive not been here long and ive grafted like an idiot 100+ hours a week. Started off living in the Ghetto, couldnt find a decent job, but stuck to my plan of working 2 jobs. open my own business at a flea market and now we live in a nice home with a pool, both have decent cars, a beautiful baby girl, a full time store and 2 seasonal ones and some cash in the bank. In 3 ish years. I never felt i could achieve half of that in the uk NEVER. Still working 100+ hours a week during peak seasons (summer and xmas), but i feel like im working toward something.

You don't have to be "Talented, rich or special " to make it here im not, it helps but hard graft and determination wins every time ( and i have a **** ton). That and the tax is much lower leaving you more dispensable income, which i used to try and build something.

Yes the poor here are very very very poor. Fortunately for me the only reason they are is because they choose to be. They only get unemployment benefits , to the tune of what they put in, when its gone its gone. Housing is paid for directly to the landlord as is power and water. Food is given to them in stamp form, not cash they can blow on beer and ***s (although some sell them). Medical cost are paid for. What they dont get is CASH. Some people need help and they do recieve it, some take advantage, but i dont feel taken advantage of.

I bust my nuts and it goes in my pockets, **** paying for anyone elses beer , ***s and nights out. I miss my family ( never saw them anyway working all the time), footy ( never saw it anyway working), bacon and a proper cup of tea ( think they use badger milk here).

if that disjointed rant has upset anyone , wasn't meant to and my apologies. Ive an immigration review on the 5th june and im ****ting it incase i have to leave ...... any one giz a job if i come back

With you, this is everything that is wrong with the UK. You obviously work hard, even taking on jobs that alot of people wouldn't (cleaning puke in club bogs :| ), yet you kept getting ****ed while the yobs next door lived like nothing was wrong in the world.

If only more people had your attitude, the country would be alot better off. And it just goes to show you, to get ahead, you need to work hard. But you shouldn't be punished for it. By moving overseas, you only helped your self, as the UK would never let you get away with saving and planning for your future.
 
With you, this is everything that is wrong with the UK. You obviously work hard, even taking on jobs that alot of people wouldn't (cleaning puke in club bogs :| ), yet you kept getting ****ed while the yobs next door lived like nothing was wrong in the world.

If only more people had your attitude, the country would be alot better off. And it just goes to show you, to get ahead, you need to work hard. But you shouldn't be punished for it. By moving overseas, you only helped your self, as the UK would never let you get away with saving and planning for your future.

cheers mate, just re-read my post and thought maybe i may have sounded conceited or bragging to some ( never my intention). Nothing wrong with working in mcdonalds or cleaning bogs in Kula's. it worked for me. Im damn proud off everything ive done so far in life.

You do what you gotta do to make ends meet, and i have the upmost of respect for people that do. But zero respect for people that dont. I never felt like i had a chance to make it back home, no matter how hard i tried. Would be back in a heart beat and may just be if my immigration appeal goes wrong ( they think my marriage is a sham. We have a kid together. IDIOTS), if attitudes changed. Time to stop the hand outs and make parents more financially accountable for their kids behavior. Drop income tax to a reasonable level, stop giving out beer tokens and encourage local business.


we are all united by a love of a football club on this forum . A football club that in my mind reflects the majority of good people in the areas belief, grit, determination and heart will always prevail, or at the very least earn you cult status. Why we love bally, bardsley etc and have a distain for certain players i.e. bent, gyan etc

football like life is spoiled by greedy lazy bastards that are innit for the minute. im greedy but i will bust my nuts to get it, and will never forget the 6 numbers that will one day make me a millionaire :emoticon-0116-evilg

i also understand my situation is on the extreme side, but absolute gospel.

P.s as i speak , its after 11pm and ive been in the store since 6am. 1 more hour to go :)
 
cheers mate, just re-read my post and thought maybe i may have sounded conceited or bragging to some ( never my intention). Nothing wrong with working in mcdonalds or cleaning bogs in Kula's. it worked for me. Im damn proud off everything ive done so far in life.

You do what you gotta do to make ends meet, and i have the upmost of respect for people that do. But zero respect for people that dont. I never felt like i had a chance to make it back home, no matter how hard i tried. Would be back in a heart beat and may just be if my immigration appeal goes wrong ( they think my marriage is a sham. We have a kid together. IDIOTS), if attitudes changed. Time to stop the hand outs and make parents more financially accountable for their kids behavior. Drop income tax to a reasonable level, stop giving out beer tokens and encourage local business.


we are all united by a love of a football club on this forum . A football club that in my mind reflects the majority of good people in the areas belief, grit, determination and heart will always prevail, or at the very least earn you cult status. Why we love bally, bardsley etc and have a distain for certain players i.e. bent, gyan etc

football like life is spoiled by greedy lazy bastards that are innit for the minute. im greedy but i will bust my nuts to get it, and will never forget the 6 numbers that will one day make me a millionaire :emoticon-0116-evilg

i also understand my situation is on the extreme side, but absolute gospel.

P.s as i speak , its after 11pm and ive been in the store since 6am. 1 more hour to go :)

Not at all.
Hard work is just that & thank goodness there're plenty of slackers out there that allow those with ambition a head start with less competition.
From one who also runs his own business I congratulate you on your progress to date & wish you every success for your future.

Ps: Investigate getting a VERY GOOD Tax Accountant to ensure you’ve got your financials structured to pay the minimum possible amount of tax!
 
Not at all.
Hard work is just that & thank goodness there're plenty of slackers out there that allow those with ambition a head start with less competition.
From one who also runs his own business I congratulate you on your progress to date & wish you every success for your future.

Ps: Investigate getting a VERY GOOD Tax Accountant to ensure you&#8217;ve got your financials structured to pay the minimum possible amount of tax!
Not paying Tax now that's a good thing is it very socially responsible, that's one of the reasons this country is in such a **** hole is business not paying what it should. Aye there are counters out there a very small proportion of society. Thatcher can and should be blamed for the **** we're in, sold off the utilities ****ed our heavy industries and manufacturing deregulated the banks. As for that ****er Cameron his cost savings have **** all to do with saving money and more to do with ideology. I'm a nurse who has basically taken a pay cut for the past 2years I now have to pay more towards my pension and if the government gets its way am going to get payed 20% less than some ****er in the south east for doing the same job.
 
yeh its ok to lift the tax threshold to £9000 but there are many people who dont earn enough to pay tax and they still have other deductions leaving very little take home pay for one weeks work <bubbly>