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A ridiculous argument? "Look at it from our point of view?" is a ridiculous argument?... Surprised by you.

Rangers have dragged the Scottish game into the gutter?

Three words, Neil Francis Lennon.

How many bans and disciplinaries did he go through? Did rangers cause people to go on strike and and plunge the game into chaos?

You're getting as bad as Harry with the stretching of the truth and mud slinging.

As for debt, I think you'll find that there isn't much between our levels of debt, don't believe everything you read in the papers...

if ever in doubt blame neil lennon

the difference between our debt and your debt is we can afford it and you can't. you may live in a house that cost you 150k but you have a salary of 50k so you can afford it, you neighbour might have a mtg of 140k but only earns 20k a year. not much difference between the debt but a huge difference in terms of affordability
 
And you are comparing his behaviour to that of Rangers FC and saying what he has been found guilty of is actually worse than Rangers recent actions?

No?

Tell me this, did Neil Francis Lennon endanger the prospects of every club and the Scottish national side by taking his grievances outside of football?
ehhh, referee strike?...
I think everyone knows he did not. He may have had his lawyer shred the SFA's regulations and show how flawed they were, he did not go running to a court of law when it went pear shaped and he did not get "His" way.

To an outsider (and that's what I am) Rangers actions are reprehensible, not only because they have ignored proper channels of appeal, but because by ignoring other means of resolving their complaints they have potentially taken much needed money out of the Scottish game. I am aware that money never really bothered Rangers in the past, but some clubs do have a strategic vision, and therefore plan ahead based upon income. Dundee utd, Hearts, Celtic, Motherwell and St Johnstone need every penny they can get and Rangers blatant attempts to circumvent the SFA rules may have harmed them all.

that you speculating on speculation again?...

Nothing Neil Francis Lennon ever did comes close to the breathtaking arrogance and "I'm all right Jack" attitude Rangers have shown in this case. The fact that some still see fit to defend Rangers' right to take this outsideT of football -and argue that they have been somehow vindicated - I find incredible. So do many others, and not all of them (or even the majority) are Celtic fans.

What breath taking arrogance?...

Pretty strong words, when was the last time your breath was taken away by anything let along arrogance? But imagine my surprise at you lot making mountains out of mole hills all in a petty, sad attempt at sullying the good name of rangers...
 
if ever in doubt blame neil lennon

the difference between our debt and your debt is we can afford it and you can't. you may live in a house that cost you 150k but you have a salary of 50k so you can afford it, you neighbour might have a mtg of 140k but only earns 20k a year. not much difference between the debt but a huge difference in terms of affordability

Well thanks for the accountancy lesson, you saying that celtics turnover is 150% more than rangers? ie. we bring in 40m, you bring in 100m?...

Sorry about the reality check here but wind it back 12 months and rangers had reduce a £40-50m debt to £18m whilst winning 3 leagues, you were spending and spending just to keep up. Or debt was going down as you were incurring it!
 
It is for the likes of chappers that we need to be truly grateful, because they stood idly by and did **** all whilst their club was pillaged. God bless everyone of them <ok>

Way hey, short memory? What were you doing circa 1989-1994?...
 
Well done Chapper !!! The guy is a first class clown that has not got the better of anybody on this board .

I genuinely lol'd at this!...

Are you on drugs? I'm actually bored of rinsing your old arse!

You've took more beatings than Leslie Ash

I would ask you for some examples but "harry doesn't post facts"...
 
Well thanks for the accountancy lesson, you saying that celtics turnover is 150% more than rangers? ie. we bring in 40m, you bring in 100m?...

Sorry about the reality check here but wind it back 12 months and rangers had reduce a £40-50m debt to £18m whilst winning 3 leagues, you were spending and spending just to keep up. Or debt was going down as you were incurring it!

no need to thank me...i am not saying that our turnover is so great, i am however, saying that it is more than yours. I think the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. after you got knocked out by kaunus the cardigan went on a wee shopping spree and increased your debt up to the 40 million mark. you then spent three years drastically trying to reduce costs. and yes you won the league so you had champions league money to throw at the debt and buy a couple more players. Our debt over the same period has also reduced, at the same time we have had two new managers come in and spent millions on new players.

If your situation was so rosy 12 months ago, why was the sale to whyte needed? why did whyte decided not to pay tax and ni ? he could have paid the tax and ni with the sale of jelavic for 9million

When MIH underwrote a share issue in 2004 which reduced your debt by 50million, he simply borrowed money from BOS in mih's name to repay debt in rangers name. Alistair Johnstone then said that this formed part of the old boards strategy to pull rangers out of ebt. they wanted to transfer the debt again into mih name. only this time lloyds had taken over and you were told that they actually wanted debt repaid and not moved around.

but continue to listen to the pish that traynor spouts in the record, he will keep you right <ok>
 
Re wind it 12 months !! You won the league and league cup with players you couldn't afford . You defaulted on Weiss and Jelavic transfer payments even you must see that as cheating . Rangers reduced their debt to 18 million !! You honestly believe that??? I pity you for being so thick .
 
Re wind it 12 months !! You won the league and league cup with players you couldn't afford . You defaulted on Weiss and Jelavic transfer payments even you must see that as cheating . Rangers reduced their debt to 18 million !! You honestly believe that??? I pity you for being so thick .

We never defaulted on paying for anyone <ok>

George Peat <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
 
You never defaulted on anyone !!!why are Rapid Vienna and Man City on your tatter list ??? You have a laugh at George Peat and I will have a laugh at Rangers woes , I know which one is funnier .
 
They were deals that are paid over a length of time, in installments. How can you default on a payment that isn't due?

Why don't you post evidence which clearly shows Rangers have defaulted on making payments for either Jelavic or Weiss?

You have **** all credibility. George Peat <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
 
by ignoring other means of resolving their complaints they have potentially taken much needed money out of the Scottish game

What other means of resolving their complaints? Lord Glennie stated that the SFA rules prevented them from going to the CAS and they were left with no alternative but the Court of Session. The bottom line is that the SFA tried to land Rangers with an illegal punishment and compounded this error by denying them any means of arbitration within the game. Your rather predictable response is to blame Rangers instead of directing your ire at the bungling amateurs who run our game.
 
What are you offering Man City and Rapid Vienna is it 8p in the £1 , can you please explain how that is not defaulting ??
 
why is weiss being mentioned as a debt?
we got him on loan from man city and all loan players are free as it takes the players wage bill off their own club costs.
teams taking players on loan just need to agree terms with the player.
 
why is weiss being mentioned as a debt?
we got him on loan from man city and all loan players are free as it takes the players wage bill off their own club costs.
teams taking players on loan just need to agree terms with the player.


You're a ****ing moron. <ok>