Reaction to Racism

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What action do you think should be taken if there is trouble [racist or otherwise] toward our players in Ukraine or Poland?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18192375


How would you react, for example, if one or more of our black players were subject to such hateful racist abuse that Roy Hodgeson called the England players from the pitch and refused to continue the game?
 
devonFRATTONiser said:
What action do you think should be taken if there is trouble [racist or otherwise] toward our players in Ukraine or Poland?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18192375


How would you react, for example, if one or more of our black players were subject to such hateful racist abuse that Roy Hodgeson called the England players from the pitch and refused to continue the game?
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I don't think any action should be taken, the players are responsible and mature enough to know what to expect, they should just ignore it, Racism is part and parcel of the eastern european game.
 
devonFRATTONiser said:
How would you react, for example, if one or more of our black players were subject to such hateful racist abuse that Roy Hodgeson called the England players from the pitch and refused to continue the game?
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Nothing should be done to any team members from any nation that doesn't feel comfortable enough to continue. UEFA will come down like a ton of bricks on the host national in question however, as it should do
 
Theo Walcott's family are also not making the trip. It'll be the first international match (that features Theo) they've not attended:

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/899398-theo-walcott-family-will-boycott-euro-2012-over-racism-concerns

The Arsenal forward has been selected in Roy Hodgson’s 23-man party to go to Poland and the Ukraine this summer, but Dad Don and brother Ashley say they can’t risk making the trip.

Ashley tweeted: ‘Unfortunately my dad n i have taken the decision not to travel to the Ukraine because of the fear of possible racist attacks confrontations.

'Something's aren't worth risking, but begs the question why hold a competition of this magnitude in a place that can not police itself for foreigners of any creed to feel safe, but I'll be watching every minute.

'Racism has no place in the modern world.'

Hodgson himself expressed his own concerns over the safety of English fans in Eastern Europe, prompting the Foreign Office to issue a warning to the thousands of supporters planning to travel.

'The issue of racism, especially the Sky report into the hooliganism and violence in Ukraine, is an obvious concern,’ said the England manager.

‘Not least the supporters who go over there and risk maybe getting beaten up.'

Official government advice says: 'Foreign nationals have been victims of violent crime in Kiev and other major cities in recent years. In some cases attacks have been racially motivated.

'Travellers of Asian or Afro-Caribbean descent and individuals from religious minorities should take extra care.'

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...-euro-2012-over-racism-concerns#ixzz1wA0rLyru
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Yid Vicious - I was just merging the two identical threads, sorry I think your post just got lost in cyber space in case your wondering.
 
brb said:
Yid Vicious - I was just merging the two identical threads, sorry I think your post just got lost in cyber space in case your wondering.
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No worries, can't remember exactly what I said but to summarise it - racism is bad <ok>
 
"Official government advice says: 'Foreign nationals have been victims of violent crime in Kiev and other major cities in recent years. In some cases attacks have been racially motivated.
'Travellers of Asian or Afro-Caribbean descent and individuals from religious minorities should take extra care."

Why is the tournament being hosted there, again? <doh>
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
"Official government advice says: 'Foreign nationals have been victims of violent crime in Kiev and other major cities in recent years. In some cases attacks have been racially motivated.
'Travellers of Asian or Afro-Caribbean descent and individuals from religious minorities should take extra care."

Why is the tournament being hosted there, again? <doh>
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It is important to give smaller nations a taste of international tournaments, just like it is important to give smaller clubs a taste of European football
 
London's Only EC Winners said:
It is important to give smaller nations a taste of international tournaments, just like it is important to give smaller clubs a taste of European football
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Not if they're totally unfit to host them. If fans of particular ethnic origins are being warned not to go and images are surfacing of hundreds of Ukrainian fans chanting Sieg Heil and saluting openly in a stadium, Asian students getting battered in the stands and black fans and players getting subjected to monkey chants, something is wrong. To give these countries such prestigious tournaments is defending the totally indefencible. Just like giving the World Cup to a homophobic country like Qatar.
 
yid vicious said:
not if they're totally unfit to host them. If fans of particular ethnic origins are being warned not to go and images are surfacing of hundreds of ukrainian fans chanting sieg heil and saluting openly in a stadium, asian students getting battered in the stands and black fans and players getting subjected to monkey chants, something is wrong. To give these countries such prestigious tournaments is defending the totally indefencible. Just like giving the world cup to a homophobic country like qatar.
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^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^

100%
 
Yid Vicious said:
Not if they're totally unfit to host them. If fans of particular ethnic origins are being warned not to go and images are surfacing of hundreds of Ukrainian fans chanting Sieg Heil and saluting openly in a stadium, Asian students getting battered in the stands and black fans and players getting subjected to monkey chants, something is wrong. To give these countries such prestigious tournaments is defending the totally indefencible. Just like giving the World Cup to a homophobic country like Qatar.
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Agree completely with what you say. UEFA claimed it was an opportunity for the host nations to tackle issues such as racism. Really this is ridiculous I can understand tackling poverty as in South Africa and giving other nations a chance. But if there is a risk of racism or violence no chances should be taken. You can't gamble that a country may tackle its problems in time for the tournament if people may be subjected to this behaviour if the hosts fail to reach these targets.
 
Yid Vicious said:
Not if they're totally unfit to host them. If fans of particular ethnic origins are being warned not to go and images are surfacing of hundreds of Ukrainian fans chanting Sieg Heil and saluting openly in a stadium, Asian students getting battered in the stands and black fans and players getting subjected to monkey chants, something is wrong. To give these countries such prestigious tournaments is defending the totally indefencible. Just like giving the World Cup to a homophobic country like Qatar.
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So should these nations not be allowed to enter Europa league too?
 
London's Only EC Winners said:
So should these nations not be allowed to enter Europa league too?
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If their fans are consistently racist and/or violent in European matches, yes. Besides that's totally different to allowing them to host a tournament when their domestic fans are so out of control and loathsome. As I said in my first post which got lost in the Matrix, given that their fans tend to clean up their act for European games in order to avoid their club getting too many fines, I'd expect similar for the Euros and far greater numbers of policing at and around the stadium will help tackle trouble early. However their's still a very real risk of it going very wrong, the fact that people are already saying they don't feel safe going is enough to realise what an awful idea this was.
 
Yid Vicious said:
If their fans are consistently racist and/or violent in European matches, yes. Besides that's totally different to allowing them to host a tournament when their domestic fans are so out of control and loathsome. As I said in my first post which got lost in the Matrix, given that their fans tend to clean up their act for European games in order to avoid their club getting too many fines, I'd expect similar for the Euros and far greater numbers of policing at and around the stadium will help tackle trouble early. However their's still a very real risk of it going very wrong, the fact that people are already saying they don't feel safe going is enough to realise what an awful idea this was.
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Without these nations there would be no Europa League and no European adventures for the likes of Shamrock, Shakatak and Spurs
 
devonFRATTONiser said:
What action do you think should be taken if there is trouble [racist or otherwise] toward our players in Ukraine or Poland?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18192375


How would you react, for example, if one or more of our black players were subject to such hateful racist abuse that Roy Hodgeson called the England players from the pitch and refused to continue the game?
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