Platini - Rules could change

[AlphaCanine]

Are you trying to get as many things wrong in one post as possible?
The article's about a possible change in three years time, so it's clearly not relevant to the current situation at Spurs, is it?

UEFA did change the rules in 2004-05, though not for Everton.
They changed them for Liverpool, who didn't actually merit reentry into the CL, despite winning it.
UEFA let them in, anyway.

I am also talking about they won't change the rules in the future as well

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

i dont think any Spurs fan made the article up.......however 5 should be allowed...because i dont see it happening often..so should be allowed...maybe make 3rd and 4th play in the qualifiers instead of just 4th.

Five Premier League clubs were allowed in 2005-6 - Chelsea and Arsenal were given direct entry to the tournament, while Man Utd, Everton and Liverpool were given qualifiers.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I am also talking about they won't change the rules in the future as well

No you weren't.
Don't be ridiculous.

Uefa won't change the rules. They did not change the rules for Everton in the 2004-05 season. So why should they for Spurs? You are clutching straws. Spurs just face it you are in Europa League.

Clearly talking about a change in the present or else the last sentence wouldn't be relevant, would it?

 

[AlphaCanine]

No you weren't.
Don't be ridiculous.



Clearly talking about a change in the present or else the last sentence wouldn't be relevant, would it?

Clearly I was hence the first sentence in my post. I was talking about they won't change the rules in the future as well as this season

 

[Topgun]

Question : according to the rules, half the CL Tv money is allocated according to league position 1 to 4. So do Spurs get a slice of the pot?

 

[superal]

Question : according to the rules, half the CL Tv money is allocated according to league position 1 to 4. So do Spurs get a slice of the pot?

Nope. We lose the whole lot while Arsenal, Utd and even City drop in revenue!

The Blues’ qualification for next season’s competition as the 2012 winners sees them go straight into the group stages, which has resulted in a change to the usual split of UEFA television money.

Normally, as domestic champions, City, guided to the title by Roberto Mancini, would get 40 per cent of television revenue, about £12m, second-placed Manchester United 30 per cent (£9m), third-placed Arsenal 20 per cent (£6m) and fourth-placed Spurs 10 per cent (£3m).

City and Chelsea will instead receive 30 per cent (£9m), United 25 per cent (£7.5m) and Arsenal 15 per cent (£4.5m).

 

[DarloGeordie]

Five Premier League clubs were allowed in 2005-6 - Chelsea and Arsenal were given direct entry to the tournament, while Man Utd, Everton and Liverpool were given qualifiers.

I remember this Liverpool were not allocated a country like the other four were, they had to start from the 1st Qualifying Rounds with the lower seeds and when they qualified for the groups were in the same Group as Chelsea and as we know clubs from the same country arent allowed to play each other in the group stages. Very special reason why Liverpool were allowed in.

 

[Topgun]

Nope. We lose the whole lot while Arsenal, Utd and even City drop in revenue!

That sounds a bit harsh you would think they would at least stick to the league position allocation of Revenue and Chelski should lose that by virtue of finishing 6th.

 

[Chirpy rides again]

Uefa won't change the rules. They did not change the rules for Everton in the 2004-05 season. So why should they for Spurs? You are clutching straws. Spurs just face it you are in Europa League.

Good knowledge there. They actually changed them for Liverpool and let them play in the first qualifying round with Everton and ManUre joining in the third round of qualifying. The rule was changed soon after that. Just face it, you need to check your facts before you come over here and give it Charley big spuds. Mug.

Incidentally, Livepool went out in the first qualifying stage to Benfica, their league form from the previous season at last catching up with them. They finished one place above where Chelsea did this year. Here's hoping that history repeats itself.

 

[NSIS]

Good knowledge there. They actually changed them for Liverpool and let them play in the first qualifying round with Everton and ManUre joining in the third round of qualifying. The rule was changed soon after that. Just face it, you need to check your facts before you come over here and give it Charley big spuds. Mug.

Incidentally, Livepool went out in the first qualifying stage to Benfica, their league form from the previous season at last catching up with them. They finished one place above where Chelsea did this year. Here's hoping that history repeats itself.

Looks like their fans are as obnoxious as their owner, and most of their players.

 

[lennypops]

Clearly I was hence the first sentence in my post. I was talking about they won't change the rules in the future as well as this season

Guys, don't argue with him - he knows how to use a doh smilie.

Hang on - you edited that post?

 

[lennypops]

HBIC - yeah those figures are amazing. I've seen them before but every time I read them they are incredible. Yes - the Chaaampions! League is obviously a way for clubs to (continue to) dominate domestically.

 

[AlphaCanine]

Good knowledge there. They actually changed them for Liverpool and let them play in the first qualifying round with Everton and ManUre joining in the third round of qualifying. The rule was changed soon after that. Just face it, you need to check your facts before you come over here and give it Charley big spuds. Mug.

Incidentally, Livepool went out in the first qualifying stage to Benfica, their league form from the previous season at last catching up with them. They finished one place above where Chelsea did this year. Here's hoping that history repeats itself.

I was talking about Everton not Liverpool.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I was talking about Everton not Liverpool.

Yes, you were.
Why they'd need to change them for Everton, who weren't affected at all by Liverpool winning it, is another question entirely, though.

 

[Boss]

Another ****** from chelsea that never shuts up.

 

[totsfan]

Another ****** from chelsea that never shuts up.

they seem to be ever increasing

 

[Chirpy rides again]

I was talking about Everton not Liverpool.

My point was they DO change rules. As Platini says that will not happen for 3 years, but to qualify for Europe only for the place you earnt to be given to a team that finished 6th in their league is clearly a situation that, however rare, cannot be allowed to continue.

 

[Spurf]

As the competition is based on appeasing the rich clubs and stopping them from forming a breakaway league it is a flawed and unfair set up from the very start.

A cup comp should be open on an equal basis to all the leagues taking part, not biased in favour of 'better' teams or leagues. That is not going to change because the rich leagues will always dominate in this format.

In other words unless you scrap the thing and set up a new 'fair' competition tinkering with it will change little.

 

[gent]

It would be pretty funny if it's changed and Tottenham are officially the only team this current rule has applied to.

I guess that would be a kind of a record though.

 

[BringBackfootie]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7774383/Platini-Rules-could-change

UEFA president Michel Platini has admitted the rule which saw Chelsea qualify for the UEFA Champions League in place of Tottenham could be reviewed in future.

Spurs boss Harry Redknapp branded the rule "unfair" after Tottenham finished fourth in the Premier League but saw their place in the Champions League taken by Chelsea as reigning European champions.

Platini said no rule change to the competition could be brought in for at least three years but that UEFA would be prepared to review the regulation.

Speaking in Budapest before the FIFA Congress, Platini said: "We can always change the rules. We can always discuss the rules, but not during the competition.

"We have decided not to change the rules or regulations of the competition for three years. So in three years we can change, that means we will come back if you wish.

"Everything can be discussed, the rules, yellow cards, but not during the competition. Perhaps in the next executive committee we can speak about it. I can put that, but they may say no."

Rules

Redknapp claimed that UEFA should allow five clubs from one country into the tournament in the special circumstance of a club winning the Champions League but finishing outside of the top four in their domestic league, as happened with Chelsea.

UEFA's current rule was introduced in 2005 when five English teams were allowed in to the Champions League after Liverpool won the tournament but finished fifth in the Premier League.

Platini said that he personally believed there should be a limit of four per country.

He added: "I think so, but it is the matter of the executive committee, a matter for discussion. If you put more in one part you have to take out more from another part and because we always play with 32 teams, with the winner it is 31, so we have to decide.

"Perhaps it could be for discussion in the future about the participation of more than four but for the moment it is not possible because the regulations are for four."

But he rejected suggestions that Spurs were being unfairly punished, adding: "No, they have not been punished. They know the rules, they should have been third and not fourth."

we've all got our own thoughts on this, and its unfortunate that we haven't made it. But those are the rules and by moaning about it, we only seem bitter.

The part Iwanted to pick up on is this:

"Platini said that he personally believed there should be a limit of four per country."

Personally, I think this needs reassessing. The premier League is without question the strongest and most competitive league in the world. Each week, one of our 20 managers will comment something on the lines of: "there's no easy games in this league". Now, don't get me wrong, some of the games are certainly easier than others. However, the fitness levels required due to the style of play and the overall quality across the entire league is much better than any other league in Europe.

The Bundesliga also allows entry from 4 clubs, in the same way that the premier league does. 3 qualify automatically, and the 4th place club have to go through the summer qualification. However, the quality of the other clubs that finish lower in this league does not match that of those who finish lower in our premiership. The same could be applied to Italy. The premiership has seen Manchester city and spurs qualify in recent years, with Liverpool no longer in the running, and clubs like Newcastle showing that they are candidates.

I would prefer that Uefa reassessed the CL placements across the European leagues and looked to alter how many clubs can qualify from a certain league. In my opinion, the balance isn't there and the premier league is suffering. This season we saw 6 clubs who were in with a chance of finishing in the top 4 and it took till the final day to decide that, followed by a CL final to throw a different spaner in the works, thus justifying how tight our league is. In addition, players from all over the world are looking to flock to our league as their priority; even if that's to a mid table club as a stepping stone. - This is due to what I have explained, as well as the money being there. Now, money shouldn't be a sole decider in this as it's not right, but it's further ammo as to why our league is so strong overall.

So, do you think it's fair that other county's that aren't necessarily a priority for the modern footballer, that aren't as competitive, as well as having less of an over all quality, should be given the same amount of placements as the premiership? For me, this is the real issue that needs addressing, not the rulings that Uefa have made over 4th place not making it, should another side from that league win the CL. Any club/person that wins something in sport should have the right to defend it, IMO.

going on last season
United out losing to basle
Spurs out of a group with part timers in the EL were hammered by spanish opposition the previous season after struggling to qualify against young boys
City flapped
Arsenal ditto
Only chelsea though sheer fortune represented the prem

Strongest league my arse, 2 spanish teams in CL semis and against the odds 0 in the final and 2 in EL final one of which and the worst of the 2 saw off the english champions, youre talking nonsense a bit there, and no the prem should not get more at the expense of sharing the cash around fairly by having even representaion from the top leagues. thats fkn deludded aftter english teams showing in Europe this season