I don't think anyone who'd I'd want to be our manager, would take the job, which is why I wish we'd stuck with who we had. I'd be happy if it was Solskjær(highly respected, well connected and definitely a manager on the up, who'd be great for the profile of the club), but I find it hard to come up with anyone beyond him who excites me, unless we're going to talk about people who'll have absolutely no interest, like Curbishley. I see Clark, Davies, McCarthy and Bruce all being a step down from Barmby. I know Nick can be too stubborn and has made mistakes, but I like what he's trying to do, I think he will be a successful manager and given the funds to bring in the players that suit the system he wants to play, then we could be on to a winner.
Wow, really? Take emotion out of it, if you were a Chairman of an aspiring Championship team you pick Barmby over Davies? Not mentioning McCarthy or Bruce as they are poor choices IMHO. I like Nick, but this was my concern, by agreeing to be manager, he left himself wide open to precisely what has happened this week. Everyone would have been better served by sitting down in November when ****face left and making Barmby a number 2 to a more experienced manager. He could have then done all his badges, got to grips with all the back room requirements. Then he would have been much better versed when the next window of opportunity arose. Now seemingly we have a club minus Barmby, which after his length of time with us, and promotions is a criminal end to a magical spell with us. He needed protecting until he was fully versed (include media etiquette in this section). At the moment no one is a winner, particularly Hull City.
Personally, I don't like Davies, not because I don't think he's able, just because I think he's a bit of an irritating twat. I was looking forward to seeing what Nick could actually do, when he was able to bring in the players he needs to play the system he quite obviously wants to play. It's quite possible that I'm biased(in fact, I almost certainly am), but I think given the signings he wanted, he could have pulled it off.
So if Allardyce ever leaves West Ham his replacement shouldn't ever sign players to play passing football, he should just play ugly long ball football for ever because that's what suits the players he's got?
Agreed, So was i So was i. This is such a shame it really is. But as Nick is still unOfficially suspended after thursdays meeting could there just be some back tracking by both parties ? I hope that The LMA have knocked some sense into Nick and the Allams one way or another. For Nick to leave now is such a waste. Nick went off on a limb to help save and stabalise the club when NP left and the Allams owe him more than they have shown so far. Deep breath one and all and lets move on to the PL. Fingers crossed that Nick may yet stay. If not as manager then as assistant manager to Mad Mick. I still want to know what Nick has said or done wrong. Having a verbal dig at your boss is not a sackable offence but it could land you a warning maybe ?
maybe, but thats the issue here. nobody knows what Nick has done wrong. From everything Nick has said to the press is common place by managers. If its gone on in private then the Allams should grow up and see the bigger picture. The fact that the meeting has happened and Nick is still only suspeneded gives me a little bit of hope that common sense will prevail.
If a chairman at some point wants you out then even if outside influences intervene to stop you getting sacked the first time, both you and the chairman knows it's only a matter of time before you do get fired. If Allam is forced to give Barmby his job back what's to stop Papa saying I want us to finish 1st next season and if you can't deliver that you're fired? As for next manager - I can't see it being anyone on that list.
Each to their own but I'm really surprised to hear someone say an inexperienced barmby is a step up from 2 managers who managed premier league just a few months ago.
Depends on what you're comparing. Accomplishments such as promotions with Sunderland and Wolves, yes McCarthy has that. If successful, Barmby could have been manager for 30 years. Unlikely? Yes. But we know he'd never leave for another club, or resign. He'd only leave when he was no longer wanted - and unfortunately it has come far too soon. He was also playing possibly the best football we've ever seen. Maybe it hasn't been overly effective so far but with a full summer transfer window and a pre-season to get the players to suit, we could have had something very exciting.
I remember that last season he had at Florist when, towards the end, they lost game after game. After each game he came out in the press afterwards making excuses and promising it would turn round the following week. Much prefer Nick's almost self-damaging honesty. Davies is obviously a capable manager, but Mick McCarthy is far more of a style that suits our club and support and commands far more respect in football.
You don't include NB in the list of candidates. It looks like you were right not to: http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/story-16000474-detail/story.html?
Precisely. He drew a ****load of games, you can go a whole season unbeaten but if you draw every game you'll be in a relegation dogfight. And I dont get the OGS fascination either, too many people watch Soccer AM on here: "He knows SAF's training methods". FFS......
For the same reasons as you have detailed I was so relieved when Leeds never went for him, like you say, he failed in Div 1 after spending an awful amount of money and had it not been for Rhodes his fail margin would have been a lot worse.
I agree with you about Clark, but you could say something like that bit about almost any manager with a standout player. Had Alex Ferguson not signed Ronaldo then Man U would probably have gone 5 or 6 years without winning a title, had Wenger not signed van Persie they wouldn't be anywhere near the CL places.
its a shame really, the one guy most people seem to want is probably the guy who wouldn't even consider us. surely mick sees himself as a premiership manager? fat sam only went to a championship team because it was west ham and they gave him stupid money to spend and probably pay him stupid wages too. I think we'll end up with someone who the fans arnt too happy with but we'll get behind anyway... someone who's spend most of their career in the championship flirting with the play off's....
Mick was sacked by a team getting relegated from the PL and has never really been linked to bigger jobs even when doing well. If he wants to be a PL manager again it'll have to be through getting someone promoted. Plus, if I was him I'd quite fancy taking a Championship club on next season so that I could try and finish above Wolves and show their board they were wrong to sack me.
