Wow

we had a good hour or so though...

 

just one question supers; what did you think of the argentine centre forward displays

 

haha, i think i know where this is going mate...

they were both absolutely outstanding weren't they. the movement was sensational from aguero while tevez, considering he's barely played in 5 months, still had his wonderful touch. aguero's two goals were stunning and we couldn't cope with them.

still rather have holt though

 

They did ok I thought, nearly as agood as Robert Rosario!

 

careful now...

 

Are you Adam Drury....?

 

i wish i was. have you seen his missus?

 

I don't know fcuk all according to you. I'm to old a cat to be pissed on by little kittens like you. You carry on with your huge knowledge of the game and anything called experience or astuteness that is clearly not abundant in your blinkered mind can be ignored while you carry on being rude to people about their OPINIONS. And as far as it goes, unless you're the majority shareholder thats all your two penneth is, an OPINION.
If you wish to disagree, do so politely. Thats what this forum is about. For now, get rid of the arrogant know all attitude.

 

I think redruth is that all supers is saying is that its better to keep harmony in a club with people in the likes of wilbs etc rather than getting rid and employing players like joey barton

I can sort of understand both points, supers is right about wilbraham within the sense of he is a top bloke around the club and it has an effect on players performances. Its amazing how working with k***head can effect your job in a negative way! But i also understand the fact we need to improve, but the fact the chris martin has been out on loan most of the season and wilbs hasnt shows who we need to get rid of first

I personally stand by my opinion and thats, we need to get 2 strikers in who are better than what we have!

 

Just a couple question mr pjs. How do you know for certain for all these "facts" about the club. Do you work at the club, are inside the dressing room to observe what happens? How do you know?? I've asked you this before, and youve said you know a few folk, which is miles from knowing anything. Maybe presenting yourself as the guru of carrow road might be a little inflammatory??

Oh and on the issue of wilbs, I still don't rate him very highly, he has a fantastic work ethic and makes a nuisance of himself. but his ability to actually play players in, is weak. His percentage of correctly weighted passes seems very low.

 

so its ok for you to be rude but not me...

ok...

longsight, i have worked for the club, i no longer do so through my own choice (i'm not neil doncaster if thats what you're thinking ), but i know people in and around the club including the odd current and many ex players and journalists close to the club. i probably know a lot more about the club than most on here but i do not know everything and there are, i'm sure, others on here who know more than i do, but even so, some of the things redruth said were miles off and i merely pointed them out - it might be his opinion but as i understand it, its not just me who knows, its pretty common knowledge that wilbraham is a massive influence at the club; to shove him out of the club would be a mistake unless the timing is right and the right replacement found who can have similar influence. as far as i can tell, that was my main point - then all hell broke loose.

 

Fair enough, but for a pedant like myself, I always find it difficult to understand when someone says a player is a massive influence at a club. How is that quantified? What does it really mean? How disruptive would it really be if he left? It seems to me when someone says X is a huge influence, it is ultimatley conjecture, nothing more.

 

good question. i don't know the guy personally but have met him and he is a thoroughly likeable man. from what i've heard from others he is a great character and someone who gets on with everybody. he is chatty and has time for everyone from top brass to tea ladies. you won't find anyone within the confines of colney who has a bad word about him. it seems he's a talker, a leader and someone who younger players listen to as well as older ones. he's good mates with many of the players and they all socialise together which is very important that they all get on outside of football too. they are all friends, from young players to old. i'm not sure morison is part of the group so much - maybe thats where he is struggling to adapt? just a thought though he is often with them - i'm just guessing on that! anyway, if you've ever worked in an environment where there are some bad eggs you'll know that its easy to get problems at work. when you have good eggs around the bad eggs you tend to look to them to lighten the mood or to help keep things on track. this is not all about football ability and thats why i say there is more to picking eleven of your best players every game to actually making a club tick, a club that works, and in our case, a club who is still striving to better itself so we can forget about relegation and financial worries of the past, and to do that we need a strong team bond. pushing one of the strongest infuences out would be an error unless a rightful replacement is found, which i trust the manager to do. it just might not happen this summer.

sorry, its a bit long winded and probably doesn't make much sense but hopefully there is some cohesive sentences in there!!

 

I think group cohesiveness is important, but I have signifcant doubts about the potential impact of one person in a squad that large. This is not a comment on Wilbs, more a general comment. The basis for this view is 20 years working in the field of psychiatry and clinical psychology, which probably means I know feck all)

 

Redruth, I was called "ignorant" and was told I knew "jack" about football, you just have to rise above the arrogance and bullying. This forum is here for discussion and debate NOT to inforce your opinions on others or insult those who have different views, some people need to keep that in mind!
I know people who have and some still do work for the club, mostly they know as much about what's happening with the team as we do, the major decisions about the team, as in any company are made at management level, so most of what comes out is unofficial and rumor and probably comes off the notice boards. All other official statements come from director/chairman level. I don't personally know anyone at those levels so what I post are my own opinions and feelings, again, this is what the site is for. Healthy debate is good and should be incouraged the other stuff shouldn't.
That is all!
By the way if you want to talk to the players, just get to the ground early on match day, wait near the car park, just about all the players are more than happy to chat, sign stuff, and pose for photo's with you, it's not a big deal!

ILD OTBC

 

just to clear this up, i have never called redruth ignorant - i called his view naive. nothing wrong with that as far as i'm concerned and frankly i got a very abusive message or three back, and i apologised to ILD for calling him ignorant ONCE months ago - that was out of order.

 

in fact, having just looked back at the previous posts between myself and redruth, i think it is he who should be apologising for a total over-reaction to me arguing that strikers shouldn't be judged on goals alone, which is what this started out as!!

 

i think you are miles off knowing what goes on at colney judging by these remarks. very naive redruth... there is more to running a successful team than just sticking a load of players together, no matter how good. its all about balance and lambert knows this. thats why martin will leave and wilbraham will most likely stay. i don't know how much he is on but he is not a high earner and that means we can keep a decent player and bring in other better ones too without upsetting the harmony in the squad. its pretty basic stuff really and your comment that 'he's not really a scorer' sums up why i bang my head against a wall trying to explain that being a striker ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT SCORING GOALS.

If that isn't being rude and arrogant then I shudder to think what you call bad manners. The only person on this site I have been arrogant and rude to is ColUMike.
As soon as anybody puts anything on here that you disagree with they are called, naive, ignorant, out of touch, whatever. We all have our opinions and thats all they are. You seem to take offence if those opinions don't match yours. We all hear how you know everything that goes on at Colney and quite frankly don't believe you. I couldn't care less if you do or don't agree with me. I don't even know you. I just like to be on here and talk about all things NCFC and a few other amusing subjects as well.
I have read you condemning many posters on here in your rude style and I finally blew after the above retort. In my opinion you are like a rotweiller and persist and persist with posts on the same subject until people give up or agree with you.
So take some advice if you want, chill out, respect the other persons argument, keep any negative thoughts to yourself and leave the bullshit alone.

 

i think you must read those remarks in a different tone to me then because they are not arrogant at all. i claimed you to be naive in what you said about the dressing room spirit and about wilbraham's ability - why is that arrogant? others agree with me on here. are they arrogant? the sentence about martin leaving and wilbraham staying are not arrogant - i clearly state 'most likely' - it is an open statement - could happen, might not. as for the stuff about him not being a goal scorer - if you genuinely believe that i am wrong about what i put then i am totally right and you are extremely naive in your perception of what makes a good footballer or not.

its you who has shown arrogance and total bad manners in all your responses to me, simply because you disagree with what i wrote about wilbraham. well tough - you can call me whatever the **** you want but you have behaved like a complete dickhead on this thread.

 

Go on sunshine, I'll let you have the last word. But if you look at the chronological order of the posts you disagreed with me about their strikers being the main influence on the result not Toure.
I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you because you are such an overbloated prick I'd drown.
Now over to you for the last word.