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Karthikeyan gets a penalty

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bob Bobbinz, Mar 26, 2012.

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Who's fault was it?

Poll closed Apr 3, 2012.
  1. Vettel's

    16.7%
  2. Karthikeyan's

    38.9%
  3. 50/50

    33.3%
  4. .....Hamilton's

    11.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Has anyone brought up Benson's take on it? Vettel collision: A champion under pressure?l

    It goes on, but even with paraphrasing this post will get to long.
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    In a thread not so long ago, it was questioned how Vettel would react to being behind and having to chase the WDC with expectations on him to do so.

    He has not silenced the critics............
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Karthikayen decided that the Blue Flag rules didn't actually apply to him, there's a reason he's had to throw ****loads of money to get HRT to do a couple of races, it's because he's absolutely ****. I can't be bothered to 'debate' with people who ignore the evidence of their own eyes tbh, it's quite clear what happened, which is why one of them has a penalty and one of them doesn't.
     
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  4. Delete Me

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    2010, had the best car and people were questioning his ability to win the WDC from the halfway point. Had talk at every GP hearing people on all sides saying: "where would Alonso or Lewis be in that car"

    It affected his form until he got his head together after Monza.

    For me it was an accident by Narain, if he was looking in front he would of seen vettel and would of not slashed his tyre.
     
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  5. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I did that for the same reason.
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    When Webber smashed into the back of Koveleinen, and instantly went on camera bitching and moaning about Heikki (even though it was Webbers fault) he was being 'honest' and 'straight-talking'. Vettel calls a back marker he'd lapped who then drove into him an idiot, and what a furore'.
     
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  7. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Well, Miggins; surely you'd agree that there is a difference in the professionalism of "bitching and moaning" to causing offence and being abusive? Even within F1, one is acceptable where the other is not. Remember the maxim, "It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it"?

    It's a bit like disagreeing with someone in a forum: there are ways of making one's point but there are also boundaries one should respect.
     
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  8. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    To be fair...There are a number of double standards when it comes to certain incidents. It seems that those that fight at the sharp end do take a lot more flack when they go off on one, when in reality it is an indication of their desire to win and for that we really shouldn't drag them over the coals.

    In all honesty... I'd likely go off on one too when it all went tits up. I'd cool down later and likely regret it, but what's done is done at that point.

    As somebody said earlier (think it was Kyle) it shows he is human after all and not just some corporate robot.

    I for one like too see that temperamental side of a driver, so I'd be a hypocrite to really slag off Vettel for his actions.
     
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  9. Nazara

    Nazara Active Member

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    Can we get a petition going to unban Kyle? <ok>
     
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  10. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Kyle got banned? I know he was a bit out of it last night but still.
     
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  11. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I was trying my best to keep him on the straight and narrow last night. I guess he crossed the line on another board?
     
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  12. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    He said last night that he'd caused some problems on the football boards. If he's banned I hope it's a temporary cooling off period. He does go over the top when he has a drink but he's generally a good contributor.
     
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  13. Delete Me

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    I did find it funny with regard to peoples opinions on the driver who was also involved.

    Vettels Rant: Narain is an idiot, the public the day before would of agreed with him as very few people rated him to do something noteworthy and considered him the most pay "driveresque" of the lot. Now he is viewed by the public as a victim of "big bully Seb" and now deserves better when getting lapped for the 3rd time. Talk about a popularity shift! Seb called him an idiot and has kept his mouth shut since while Narain has made 2 direct pops at Seb afterwards calling him "unprofessional" and a "crybaby", yeah a rich boy calling a working class driver like Seb a "crybaby" that's rich with his family background.

    Lewis Rant Monaco 2011: Calls Massa and Maldonado useless, schumacher a dirty cheater and plays a bit of a low blow race joke with the stewards. The public still thought Massa was a twat, same with Maldonado and that he is a clear cut pay driver. They still said Schumacher was a dirty cheater and deserved those insults and somehow it's possible that the stewards do have it out for Lewis with regard to his skin colour. To top it off Lewis' Dad had to drag him back after 2-3 hours, suggesting him to say sorry towards all the stewards.
     
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  14. Nazara

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    Can I ask you a question Silver?
    Why do you always bring Lewis up? Lewis didn't need to be involved.
     
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  15. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Yeah... He did say that.

    I've had my run ins with Kyle but you can get some funnies and some decent debate when he's not sauced up. He's also had the grace to apologize after the event.
     
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  16. Delete Me

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    This. Unban him.
     
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  17. Delete Me

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    It's the only other rant I can pick out involving a high profile driver like Seb. I know it looks like I'm only pointing it out but I just cant think of another one that got so much media attention.

    I'm not trying to bring Lewis involved, I'm just trying to put a decent comparison with 2 high profile drivers.
     
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  18. SgtBhaji

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    And Lewis gets dragged over the coals when he mouths off... So the point is moot. :)
     
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  19. Delete Me

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    This isn't about Lewis vs Vettel, it's about opinion to Lewis rant compared with Vettel rant.

    I'm not trying to say something out of this, I just find it funny in my opinion that in 1 situation the mass consensus still thought Massa and co were still how they were orginally portrayed. Yet this time with Vettel, Narain is considered the victim with the same kind of media attack as Lewis did.

    Massa: Still ****
    Maldonado: Pay driver and ****
    Schumacher: Stinking cheater
    Stewards: Pigs who have it out for Lewis

    Narain: Clear cut victim.


    That's what I'm just trying to point out.
     
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  20. Nazara

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    I think it's more of who you support.
     
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