Final Straw - Barmby Out

[Amin Arrears]

ive tried not to criticism him too directly, hes inexperienced, one of our own etc..
but hes irritatated the **** out of me several times today..
firstly on the radio before the game, he sniped about swanny and all the plan b stuff, saying apparently i need a plan b, funny how people didnt say that when i was winning, of course they ****ing didnt, you dont need a plan b when plan a is working!!

then putting matty fryatt to left wing irritated me a bit, but that not much as we werent going to score anyway, wonder who suggested that move in the great clear the air meeting which seemed to work a right treat..!
then to come on radio now and say he was proud of that display!!! must have been watching a different game to me, it was absolute ****e again, then has a go at burnsy for daring to suggest a play off chasing team cant afford to lose and not score twice in a week against 2 of the bottom 3...

he must be watching different games to me, and id like to swap my season pass for the games hes watching as they sound a lot more fun..
thats all im saying on it now, not ruining another saturday night getting riled up about city

Agree with all that I'm thinking exactly the same, and also taking Brady off, the only player who looked like doing anything at all, just like taking Fryatt off at Pompey who again was the only player who managed to control and pass the ball and look like doing anything at all. His system is bullshit, it was hardly working with Koren in it and without him it's just diabolical, I mean what the fck was a striker doing on the wing while a winger was playing down te center?

And then to have a rant about fans who criticise? For ****s sake, the guy is a ****er, of course you're going to get criticised when you serve up that pile of **** week in week and and show pure reluctance to even try to change anything. It's not like we're just poor, we're completely fcking abysmal, there's hardly a moment worth getting out your seat for in an entire match against bottom 3 teams.

I really do give up now, it's an 8-9 hour day and a full tank of fuel to get here to watch this crap, I'm tight on money and don't have much spare time yet I still get myself to every game to support the team, but the manager can't even support the ****ing fans, and te team play like a bunch of ****ing girls. Absolute bollocks and I just feel like I'm being taken for a mug.

 

[City1904]

Agree with all that I'm thinking exactly the same, and also taking Brady off, the only player who looked like doing anything at all, just like taking Fryatt off at Pompey who again was the only player who managed to control and pass the ball and look like doing anything at all. His system is bullshit, it was hardly working with Koren in it and without him it's just diabolical, I mean what the fck was a striker doing on the wing while a winger was playing down te center?

And then to have a rant about fans who criticise? For ****s sake, the guy is a ****er, of course you're going to get criticised when you serve up that pile of **** week in week and and show pure reluctance to even try to change anything. It's not like we're just poor, we're completely fcking abysmal, there's hardly a moment worth getting out your seat for in an entire match against bottom 3 teams.

I really do give up now, it's an 8-9 hour day and a full tank of fuel to get here to watch this crap, I'm tight on money and don't have much spare time yet I still get myself to every game to support the team, but the manager can't even support the ****ing fans, and te team play like a bunch of ****ing girls. Absolute bollocks and I just feel like I'm being taken for a mug.

Was you watching a different Brady to me? He was very poor today, just didn't work for him at all today.

The problem is we have no different way of playing teams can come and set up to handle how we play, teams have got so used to us. His plan B seems to throw every striker onto the pitch which doesn't work either, as soon as Stewart or Brady go off we lack any width and it just becomes either hoof ball or pass it around the back four.

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

im in away direct, and i get my tickets sent direct so i already have millwall tickets, but im taking them back on monday for a refund.
will be the 1st game ive missed in ten years that wasnt due to work or illness, but if hes proud of that display, and thats the level hes aiming for, then i arent interested in risking a stabbing for a mid table nothing affair.
maybe that makes me a fairweather fan, who cares...

 

[BernsteinTiger]

ive tried not to criticism him too directly, hes inexperienced, one of our own etc..
but hes irritatated the **** out of me several times today..
firstly on the radio before the game, he sniped about swanny and all the plan b stuff, saying apparently i need a plan b, funny how people didnt say that when i was winning, of course they ****ing didnt, you dont need a plan b when plan a is working!!

then putting matty fryatt to left wing irritated me a bit, but that not much as we werent going to score anyway, wonder who suggested that move in the great clear the air meeting which seemed to work a right treat..!
then to come on radio now and say he was proud of that display!!! must have been watching a different game to me, it was absolute ****e again, then has a go at burnsy for daring to suggest a play off chasing team cant afford to lose and not score twice in a week against 2 of the bottom 3...
then burnsy asked if there was any thought into playing the likes of garcia or oli for experience, he turned into a right arsehole.
i know a lot of people take the piss out of burnsy and swanny, but im sorry over the last few weeks, they have talked a lot more sense between them then him..

he must be watching different games to me, and id like to swap my season pass for the games hes watching as they sound a lot more fun..
thats all im saying on it now, not ruining another saturday night getting riled up about city

Thanks dj, you've just summed up how I'm feeling.

I think Barmby's attitude today stinks. I didn't like the way he tried to divide the fans.

I was there until the end today. I applauded McLean when he came over to the east stand. I'll always give city my support.

But that support isn't unquestioning. We haven't just gone off the boil, today wasn't the exception, Cardiff was the exception. I could deal with losing by more than 2, as long as for most of the match it looked like we were in the game.

How many people, honestly, expected us to overturn the 0-1?

The game felt over on 5 minutes.

There was nothing to be proud of today.

 

[Jaggro]

I imagine there'll be plenty of us being accused of being 'fairweather' fans in the next few weeks but for God's sake, it's not because of a poor run of form, it's because we don't even look like scoring or that we're even trying, nor does our manager look willing to change a single thing to remedy that. For the first time in my life today, I was extremely reluctant to make my way to the ground, and yet again the team showed why. Thank God there's only a few games left - I can't put up with this **** much longer.

 

[Amin Arrears]

At least there was one positive from today, I guess my prediction of Cov winning 2-0 without us getting one clear scoring chance all game was absolutely spot on.

 

[Jaggro]

How many people, honestly, expected us to overturn the 0-1?
The game felt over on 5 minutes.
There was nothing to be proud of today.

I felt like going home when the first goal went in, as did many I imagine - it was already over.

 

[Jobboshinpad]

ive tried not to criticism him too directly, hes inexperienced, one of our own etc..
but hes irritatated the **** out of me several times today..
firstly on the radio before the game, he sniped about swanny and all the plan b stuff, saying apparently i need a plan b, funny how people didnt say that when i was winning, of course they ****ing didnt, you dont need a plan b when plan a is working!!

then putting matty fryatt to left wing irritated me a bit, but that not much as we werent going to score anyway, wonder who suggested that move in the great clear the air meeting which seemed to work a right treat..!
then to come on radio now and say he was proud of that display!!! must have been watching a different game to me, it was absolute ****e again, then has a go at burnsy for daring to suggest a play off chasing team cant afford to lose and not score twice in a week against 2 of the bottom 3...
then burnsy asked if there was any thought into playing the likes of garcia or oli for experience, he turned into a right arsehole.
i know a lot of people take the piss out of burnsy and swanny, but im sorry over the last few weeks, they have talked a lot more sense between them then him..

he must be watching different games to me, and id like to swap my season pass for the games hes watching as they sound a lot more fun..
thats all im saying on it now, not ruining another saturday night getting riled up about city

^^^^^This^^^^^^

Apparently loyal supporters is all he's bothered about? So if you've been going 30 odd years you're not allowed to criticise **** play, **** tactics and **** prospects for next season.

The honeymoon and the shadow of Nigel Pearsons team and tactics ended today.

Off t'pub

 

[NoelEdmonds]

ive tried not to criticism him too directly, hes inexperienced, one of our own etc..
but hes irritatated the **** out of me several times today..
firstly on the radio before the game, he sniped about swanny and all the plan b stuff, saying apparently i need a plan b, funny how people didnt say that when i was winning, of course they ****ing didnt, you dont need a plan b when plan a is working!!

then putting matty fryatt to left wing irritated me a bit, but that not much as we werent going to score anyway, wonder who suggested that move in the great clear the air meeting which seemed to work a right treat..!
then to come on radio now and say he was proud of that display!!! must have been watching a different game to me, it was absolute ****e again, then has a go at burnsy for daring to suggest a play off chasing team cant afford to lose and not score twice in a week against 2 of the bottom 3...
then burnsy asked if there was any thought into playing the likes of garcia or oli for experience, he turned into a right arsehole.
i know a lot of people take the piss out of burnsy and swanny, but im sorry over the last few weeks, they have talked a lot more sense between them then him..

he must be watching different games to me, and id like to swap my season pass for the games hes watching as they sound a lot more fun..
thats all im saying on it now, not ruining another saturday night getting riled up about city

*Applause* Very well said.

 

[Notts Trent Tiger]

**** game, **** attitude, **** tactic, **** all to look forward to, feels like the back end of 2009/10 season! Have no enthusiasm at all to go to games, but still do and support the team from the first minute to the last but something needs changing and if Barmby isn't willing to do it than maybe he needs to step down maybe be assistant to someone, but with such a young squad I think we need an experienced manager to get the very best out of them.

 

[BernsteinTiger]

At least there was one positive from today, I guess my prediction of Cov winning 2-0 without us getting one clear scoring chance all game was absolutely spot on.

Please tell me you stuck a crafty fiver on this?

 

[King Curtis]

Worryingly today Coventry had us worked out from pretty much the start and we didn't offer anything at all in changing things. I like Nick and he's being a great servant for this club, but if things carry on then for the team's and his own sake he needs to perhaps take a background role behind someone with some experience to help develop his managerial skills. Our run of form since Reading away has being poor and I wonder if the manager's job has now become a step to far for Nick at this present moment in time.

 

[PLT]

Well to be fair in the first twenty minutes did have four good chances we just can't chance them. The problem is no matter how many chances we create we won't take them, and we have no depth so as soon as we lose any players we are done for. If they can get sorted we can be successful. Just typical overreacting by most as you get.

It's very easy to point at depth but what difference did it make?

Koren gets injured and we score 0 every game, thing is we were scoring 0 before that too.

Chester and Hobbs get injured and we concede 2 goals, but that happened in the last 3 games too.

The fact is this is the same old crap we've had since the middle of last season. We had it sorted out for a while between October and January but since then it's gone back to the same old crap and the same old problems.

As for the chances, your typing mistake actually sums it up pretty well. We get into good positions but we don't turn it into a shot somehow. It's ridiculous that Barmby can't see that for every 50 pass attack culminating in a speculative half-chance we have, the other team lumps it forward and creates a better chance than we did in the space of 5 seconds. This tactic is getting is absolutely nowhere. NB has to see this and alter our style a bit, because he isn't going to get the millions he'll need to make us capable of playing the way he wants to any great effect.

Barmby is being a bit of a **** about it too. People can handle losing now and then but he's basically asking everyone to not give a **** about losing at all (but still find the motivation to get behind the team) and never question anything he does. Basically he wants better treatment from his fans than any other manager in the country gets, it's just not realistic.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Please tell me you stuck a crafty fiver on this?

I bloody wished I did, I was almost certain this would be the results but putting a bet down never crossed my mind. Bet the odds would have been extortionate aswel

 

[City1904]

It's very easy to point at depth but what difference did it make?

Koren gets injured and we score 0 every game, thing is we were scoring 0 before that too.

Chester and Hobbs get injured and we concede 2 goals, but that happened in the last 3 games too.

The fact is this is the same old crap we've had since the middle of last season. We had it sorted out for a while between October and January but since then it's gone back to the same old crap and the same old problems.

As for the chances, your typing mistake actually sums it up pretty well. We get into good positions but we don't turn it into a shot somehow. It's ridiculous that Barmby can't see that for every 50 pass attack culminating in a speculative half-chance we have, the other team lumps it forward and creates a better chance than we did in the space of 5 seconds. This tactic is getting is absolutely nowhere. NB has to see this and alter our style a bit, because he isn't going to get the millions he'll need to make us capable of playing the way he wants to any great effect.

Barmby is being a bit of a **** about it too. People can handle losing now and then but he's basically asking everyone to not give a **** about losing at all (but still find the motivation to get behind the team) and never question anything he does. Basically he wants better treatment from his fans than any other manager in the country gets, it's just not realistic.

At least with Koren i felt we would score, now like many others i don't think we will. I think your regular point of not enough players getting forward was clear today, Evans offers nothing going forward currently and Mckenna looks ****ed. I agree with my typing mistake also. I don't know how many times in a game we get into the area but we never do anything with it. Matty Fryatt has a fair few of these.

 

[Geo's Ice Cream Van]

As I said when he took the job, he's a stubborn **** at times.
Push him so far and he does things his way even more, like a spoilt kid.
We need to see if he is big enough and cares about the club enough to ask for some help, or to step down and admit he is struggling as a manager.
Theres no disgrace in either of the above options, he did the right thing by taking the job on at the time.
I honestly think he's lost the dressing room.

 

[PLT]

Another thing, we don't use our wingers well enough at all. This was something PB excelled at in the promotion season, he often had us playing with two proper wingers on the right side and got plenty of the ball to them but now the likes of Brady and King obviously have some talent when they get the ball but they just don't see it often enough.

 

[Davies Headband]

Since Barmby came in on a permanent contract on January 10, we've played 16 games in all competitions, won 4, lost 5 and drawn 7, so have only won 19 points. Carry on this form for a full season and we'll be looking at a relegation battle next season I reckon.

Time for a change, either bring an experienced manager in as Barmby's assistant, or make him assistant to someone else, and if he doesn't like it then he knows where the door is.
My choice as his assistant would be Peter Taylor, at least we'd be a threat from set pieces again!

 

[Nick HCAFC]

Well if he's lost the fans, as seems clear on this thread then it's time to think about the next man in, it's a shame how things turn so fast but when you see this kind of response it doesn't bode well for the manager.

 

[TygerTyger]

What you on about?

You said "There I've said it, we're clueless, abysmal, shocking. That was my last match this season, not wasting good money and precious minutes of my life watching this bull**** anymore

So I thought you had gone, then, like magic, you re-appear. It's good to have you back, supporting your team in its moment of crisis. I commend you. Clear now?