AC Milan vs Arsenal: Match Thread

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Italian football is back on the rise again. Milan look good, Napoli look good, Juventus look good, Inter look decent etc.
 
PISKIE said:
On the bench at Milan - do you think he'd want to come to Arsenal ?
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There were a load of rumours linking him to us. he'd be a quality replacement for van persie if he were to leave (and after tonight, who could blame him if he does?)
 
PISKIE said:
We played terribly and got what we deserved in the end. The goals could have been prevented if we'd had played better. But that said, the manner in which we conceded was really unfortunate. Szczney's kick was terrible (his own doing) But Ibra was offside, the Vermaelen slip was really unlucky and the it wasn't a pen for me. There can't really be any excuses though, we were utterly woeful tonight.
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... okay, I can see were you're coming from. But still. You can understand the frustration like any gooner.

There are no excuses for tonight. It was a horrid performance from all involved. I don't want to argue with a fellow gooner. It's all pretty trivial now. Let's all just hope things get better from now.

Although, to be honest, as things have been going over the last few years, I REALLY don't see things improving until we actually fall out of top four. Which Is not the direction the Board should be taking. They need to be more PROACTIVE in what is happening. They just don't seem to give two ****s until the money starts slipping away. We, as fans, shouldn't have to deal with that as supporters of THE ARSENAL. We're better than that. But we're being taken for mugs here.

I dunno. I just wish there was a bit more to be cheerful about. And I do realise HUNDREDS of teams would die to be in the position we are in. i.e. near/top four etc. But the fact is, we WILL fall out of the top four, if not this season, next. It's inevitable at this point. Something needs to improve, and FAST.
 
Kyle? said:
Italian football is back on the rise again. Milan look good, Napoli look good, Juventus look good, Inter look decent etc.
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Italian football got knocked for 6 by the bribing scandal. Imagine if Man utd and chelsea had just got kicked out of the league and arsenal got banned from the cl for 1 season. It would of crippled the premier league. Now those clubs are coming back to strength and not surprising italian football is returning. UNlike the spainish league they have 6-7 "big" clubs who have quality teams. Kind of like the premier league in the respect that its very competetive.

I dont blame wengers tactics tonight. Sure we were awful but the facts are that wenger can only use what he has got. He didnt want to sell cesc or nasri. His hand was forced. Obv wenger is to blame for alot but he is still a clas manager. Just maybe his time at arsenal needs to end.

The problem tonight was simple: they have far better players than we do. Thats it.

I know we see our players through rose tinted glasses alot of the time but if we look at it in the cold light of day then their team is player for player a mile above ours. Heck its probably above man u and citys.

Thiago is remarkable for them. He is probably the best centre half in the game. Abate is top class. Van Bommel can get a job done in there. Boeteng is fantastic and Ibra is obviously an exceptional football player.

RVP is quality. But apart from him we dont really have anyone that you could be sure was capable of competiting with the top teams in the world. Milan have 7-8 guys who you know wont look out of place in any company.

Maybe we just need to realise that arsenal are no longer going for titles. No longer are we a threat in the cl. Not really. Maybe we just have to settle for trying to compete in the premier league and get into the top 4 before maybe kicking on again in a few years.
 
Kos has a knee injury according to Wenger. Hope its nothing serious, he is our best defender by far at the moment.
 
Arsenal4life said:
Italian football got knocked for 6 by the bribing scandal. Imagine if Man utd and chelsea had just got kicked out of the league and arsenal got banned from the cl for 1 season. It would of crippled the premier league. Now those clubs are coming back to strength and not surprising italian football is returning. UNlike the spainish league they have 6-7 "big" clubs who have quality teams. Kind of like the premier league in the respect that its very competetive.

I dont blame wengers tactics tonight. Sure we were awful but the facts are that wenger can only use what he has got. He didnt want to sell cesc or nasri. His hand was forced. Obv wenger is to blame for alot but he is still a clas manager. Just maybe his time at arsenal needs to end.

The problem tonight was simple: they have far better players than we do. Thats it.

I know we see our players through rose tinted glasses alot of the time but if we look at it in the cold light of day then their team is player for player a mile above ours. Heck its probably above man u and citys.

Thiago is remarkable for them. He is probably the best centre half in the game. Abate is top class. Van Bommel can get a job done in there. Boeteng is fantastic and Ibra is obviously an exceptional football player.

RVP is quality. But apart from him we dont really have anyone that you could be sure was capable of competiting with the top teams in the world. Milan have 7-8 guys who you know wont look out of place in any company.

Maybe we just need to realise that arsenal are no longer going for titles. No longer are we a threat in the cl. Not really. Maybe we just have to settle for trying to compete in the premier league and get into the top 4 before maybe kicking on again in a few years.
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This is as defeatist as it gets
Our team could have beaten Milan but Wenger got the tatics disastarously wrong and it bit us in the ass
 
PNEawf said:
This is one of the reasons we will never win anything.
Our team is not good enough. The tactics were wrong, but the team we have is not up to standard either.
We need a new manager who will get rid of the dross and introduce some fight and some class.
RvP, Oxo, Sagna, Wilshere and TV are the only outfield players that should be in our first team, the rest are bench warmers at best.
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Agreed.

Some players are good - like Arteta, benayoun, Walcott.. - but just not good enough for a top side.
Othe players are just abysmal - Ramsey, Djourou, Squillaci, Chamakh, Denilson, Vela... - they should never have been anywhere near an Arsenal shirt.

Major surgery is needed - and Wenger wont do it.
 
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