Election 2024

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I wonder what emissions this world cup has added to planet Earth, and the next world world cup. At least the BBC stayed at home in Salford....yet still jetted Shearer out there, that was one contribution that wouldn't have been missed if that **** had stayed at home as well.

 

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And for those at the G7 recently, setting future goals on net zero, maybe they should all ask themselves how many rockets they've sold and have been used over the last few years - if the answer is even one, it's one too many and will they do anything about that, no because they are all going to increase military spending, so they can fight even more wars and any surplus will be sold off to third world countries who have so called internal strife.

 

[Welshie]

 

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Oh it's 40 ****ing degrees in the UK today, can the rest of you ****ers out there on the planet please stop letting rockets and missiles off, so we can cool down a bit. I've got my aircon unit on today, **** net zero.

I suppose if at least the Strait is open, no more tankers will be blown to smithereens. Well until someone mentions the word Epstein again of course.

 

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Bro remind me when you are taking a nice big jumbo jet to America again?

 

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Actually I've just thought of another, the SKY News helicopter the other day, following an Avanti train all the way into London, just because Andy Burnham was on it. You really couldn't make this **** up. If they ever go on about their net zero pledges again they can **** right off.

 

[PINKIE]

Bro remind me when you are taking a nice big jumbo jet to America again?

That’s a good example of why we need investment into renewables, without that the aviation industry wouldn’t have invented SAF

 

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That’s a good example of why we need investment into renewables, without that the aviation industry wouldn’t have invented SAF

Thing is mate, no one is giving a **** about blowing stuff up and creating oil tanker fires or oil refineries being drone attacked by Ukraine.

Read it for yourself mate, it's all bollocks because whatever we do, humans will still blow the **** out of something, they can't help themselves and it aint going to change anytime soon...

https://kyivindependent.com/oil-depot-reportedly-set-ablaze-in-russias-krasnodar-krai-following-ukrainian-strike/

But as long as we act like good little minions, because the rules don't apply to governments and a trillionaire who don't care how much of his money he burns.

 

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Can I ask before I blow this up, what emissions will it create, Donald Trump thanks you for your attention to this matter.

'Epstein' blow it up, **** it just blow it up, let it burn.

 

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Net Zero...

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[Welshie]

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So in conclusion it's good that Miliband is being moved away from net zero

1st win Burnham

 

[PINKIE]

Thing is mate, no one is giving a **** about blowing stuff up and creating oil tanker fires or oil refineries being drone attacked by Ukraine.

Read it for yourself mate, it's all bollocks because whatever we do, humans will still blow the **** out of something, they can't help themselves and it aint going to change anytime soon...

https://kyivindependent.com/oil-depot-reportedly-set-ablaze-in-russias-krasnodar-krai-following-ukrainian-strike/

But as long as we act like good little minions, because the rules don't apply to governments and a trillionaire who don't care how much of his money he burns.

yeah I hear ya

 

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So in conclusion it's good that Miliband is being moved away from net zero

1st win Burnham

Probably.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Probably the only decent thread on GC is the net zero one. I don't contribute often but there are some genuinely interesting takes and insights there.

Recommended.

Anyone who thinks any politician with any semblance of power ever acts in the best interests of the common people is an absolute buffoon.

I totally disagree with their politics, but this is why people like Corbyn and Sanders will never hold any real power. Forget the premiership itself. I mean any power whatsoever. Because they are a rare breed of politician who actually care about the people they represent. Not a chance the money men allow people like that into power.

Miliband is part of the establishment working to make sure the big corporations continue to outsource pollution for extravagant profits, while we all foot the bill with constant energy bill increases and 20p bags in shops, because that's really going to make all the difference.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

I genuinely CK haven't seen you ever suggest a single British politician isn't a disaster.

Miliband is the best qualified for the role. He's a senior politician who served as Treasury minister before.

Getting him out of the environment and energy office is the best way to bring in fresh ideas to that office.

I've spoken about maybe half a dozen politicians on here, so that's an assumption.

I don't mind Starmer at all and on the balance of it I think he did a relatively good job considering the mess he inherited. I've said before he's his own worst enemy, terrible communicator who lacked the charisma to convince others of his achievements.

So now we're heading for our fifth unelected PM in the space of a decade, a man who has charisma in spades but no one has a clue what his actual policies are.

Given the state of democracy in this country and the fact that as a taxpayer and voter, I am meant to feel represented, I don't feel the need to celebrate politicians if they give me nothing to celebrate.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

And yet the transition to renewables is an absolute must, both to bring down emissions and to secure our own energy needs.

We produced 52.5% of our electricity from renewables last year

That's a massive leap forward from the days when we used to produce it all from burning coal

If you want to factor in cost, the cost of trying to mitigate against the effects of climate change are going to dwarf what it will cost to transition to carbon neutral technologies.

I don't disagree with any of that.

But there is always a much bigger picture and a hidden cost in a globalised world. It is impossible for there not to be.

Think about the massive increase in demand for lithium, cobalt and manganese for EV batteries. Where's that all coming from and how is it being extracted from the Earth? No one stops to ask that when they're cruising along the M3 all smug in their Tesla.

Think about the heart of palm scam, sold to the world as a nice healthy organic food and then lo and behold it turns out to make the stuff you need to deforest thousands of acres of land.

Or all the twats walking around with their latte and avocado toasts. 1kg of avocados requires 2000 litres of water. No one knows this stuff because politicians make sure it is never discussed.

Over the past 50 years, the UK has become a world leader in two exports: workforce, and pollution.

I couldn't give a toss how many wind turbines they've blighted the Cornwall countryside with if it costs the taxpayer more and still leads to a global net rise in pollution. It is the epitome of vanity politics.

 

[Solid Air]

I believe for the time they're from near every bloke in the country had some military service

Weren't all 3 of them aristocrats too?

Churchill deffo was iirc born in Belnheim Palace .
Think he also took part in one of the last big Cavalry charges by our Army during the battle of Omdurman (sp)

 

[Welshie]

I've spoken about maybe half a dozen politicians on here, so that's an assumption.

I don't mind Starmer at all and on the balance of it I think he did a relatively good job considering the mess he inherited. I've said before he's his own worst enemy, terrible communicator who lacked the charisma to convince others of his achievements.

So now we're heading for our fifth unelected PM in the space of a decade, a man who has charisma in spades but no one has a clue what his actual policies are.

Given the state of democracy in this country and the fact that as a taxpayer and voter, I am meant to feel represented, I don't feel the need to celebrate politicians if they give me nothing to celebrate.

I know, I was being facetious ye ****ing whinge bag

 

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[PINKIE]

I don't disagree with any of that.

But there is always a much bigger picture and a hidden cost in a globalised world. It is impossible for there not to be.

Think about the massive increase in demand for lithium, cobalt and manganese for EV batteries. Where's that all coming from and how is it being extracted from the Earth? No one stops to ask that when they're cruising along the M3 all smug in their Tesla.

Think about the heart of palm scam, sold to the world as a nice healthy organic food and then lo and behold it turns out to make the stuff you need to deforest thousands of acres of land.

Or all the twats walking around with their latte and avocado toasts. 1kg of avocados requires 2000 litres of water. No one knows this stuff because politicians make sure it is never discussed.

Over the past 50 years, the UK has become a world leader in two exports: workforce, and pollution.

I couldn't give a toss how many wind turbines they've blighted the Cornwall countryside with if it costs the taxpayer more and still leads to a global net rise in pollution. It is the epitome of vanity politics.

What you have to bear in mind though is that these are transitional technologies. With regard to EVs, yes there is an ecological and human right issue with the extraction of cobalt and rare earth minerals, but once those minerals are extracted, they then produce a battery that will likely outlast the lifetime of the vehicle. And once that battery is depleted, those minerals will be recycled into making another battery.

If you compare this with a combustion car, there is all of the energy that goes into making it, the steel, aluminum, even rare earth metals like platinum are used in catalytic converters. And then for the entire lifetime of the car, it relies on oil extraction to make the fuel to run it.

With EVs all of the energy consumption is up front. Then they become very sustainable to run, especially if you’ve got solar panels on your roof.

Also, lithium battieries are a transitional tech, the Chinese are already producing sodium solid state batteries that do not require rare earth minerals. And these will hit the market later this year.

It’s easy to criticise renewables for the environmental impact that they do have, but as I mention you have to see this in a step change way, each time we are moving towards more and more sustainable ways of producing energy.