No I know, and I appreciate that the building is probably very interesting.
But what is the point of protecting something that no-one is going to see or hasn't seen?
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No I know, and I appreciate that the building is probably very interesting.
But what is the point of protecting something that no-one is going to see or hasn't seen?
You'd think it would be very worthwhile developing it, it will make decent apartments and there's plenty of demand in Cottingham...
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Many listed buildings are also tourist attractions (or can simply be seen from the street). I guess they're ok.
Many aren't because they're private property or simply not visible (underground bunkers - there are quite a lot of these which are listed - or tunnels for example).
Not sure that an owner of a listed house would respond well to being told that their house was being delisted and demolished because no one is going to see it or that a subterranean structure built during the Cold War as a nuclear shelter is going to be filled in, due to it not being visible - which was a significant part of it's design brief in the first place, to be honest.
Although, thinking about it, it might be better if the latter were recommissioned.
Thing with listed buildings are the rules and regulations that come with them, it makes any renovation, restoration or reuse extra expensive. A consequence of that is many get left and just deteriorate so they end up in an even worse state. Eg the lord line building which will soon be a pile of rubble.
Indeed, Elmswell Old Hall (grade 2*) is open for public viewing on only one day a year.
It's our time.
Yes but if a building that is listed is being used and/or not getting in the way of a development isn’t that a different question?
Buildings should of course be protected, but as part of that process I think their public notoriety should also be included. I would argue The Lawns has very minimal value on that scale.
Who would be in charge of determining public notoriety (whatever that means) against special architectural or historic interest?
The fact is that listed buildings have been designated as having special architectural or historic interest. Whether people like them or not isn't really the point.
I will say that I think The Lawns are magnificent looking buildings. I wish my University accommodation had being that pleasant rather than the brutalist soviet block I spent a year living in.
The same panel who judge whether buildings have enough architectural merit to be listed. It can come as part of the process.
I agree, not all listed buildings need to look nice to be listed. I’m actually quite a fan of ugly buildings too. I also have no opinion of the lawns as I’ve never seen them - which is my point really. If a large portion of the local community have no idea what it looks like and its history doesn’t go back that far back - is being interesting as a structure enough?
My word, I can see why they are protected. Absolutely stunning .............ly ugly.
I could imagine a use for them, with 20 foot high barbed wire all around and security patrols until the processing has been done and deportations made.
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looks like a russian prison camp
And becasue theyre listed
They will sit abandonded for decades
While urban explorers and others squat there
The housing of asylum claimants prior to being granted leave to stay was mooted a couple of years ago.
Although you believe this would have been a good use of the buildings, the University thought otherwise and withdrew from the proposed Government contract.
I guess, given the change of Government, you could contact them and suggest your idea again?
Almost back to square one...
During the war the site was built as a refugee camp for people bombed out of their houses in Hull, but prior to D-Day was used to accommodate black American soldiers.
Couldnt they use them as ths offices/accomodation for academy/training ground?
Theres acres of space for pitches etc
My house is Grade 2 listed. Ask for a viewing and you will get told to do one.
Too many buildings, not enough space.
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Ok so apologies if this has been already spoken about or I’m being a ****ing fool but isn’t there a stretch of land behind the training ground. I was on google looking for a certain building in cottingham on another matter and thought I’d have a look in that area. It looks from the map to be as big as city’s training ground. Together it would be a bloody large plot of land for pitches etc. unless there is some near distinct species of tadpole, newt or rare beetle on there, making that area environmentally scientifically interesting….
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Its owned by Yorkshire Water.